Olympics Thread
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<p>Even for people who don't like Messam, the guy's ability to bounce back from disappointment and not drop his lip is pretty inspiring. I listened to his interview with Veitch and he said, while he was disappointed, the people he works with who have real life problems (kids with cancer, etc) puts things in perspective for him. He never struck me as the smartest rugby player going around, but I'm sure a lot of other players could learn from that.</p>
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<p>Even for people who don't like Messam, the guy's ability to bounce back from disappointment and not drop his lip is pretty inspiring.</p>
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<p>A lot of it is in the dropping. This is a credit to both Messam and the AB and NZ7's set ups. Players are dropped in a much more respectful way than they have been previously. Always done personally, always given the key work ons and the door is always open. No nepotism either which helps tremendously. Even as recently as the early 00s guys who you wouldn't think would have a cry like Kronfeld and Cully dropped their bundles. I even remember Michael Jones having a public sulk after missing the 95 RWC squad (I may be wrong on that though). But yes - stellar effort in the way he has handled this. Honestly more worried than how his buddy will handle it than him.</p>
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<p>All that said - glad he didn't make the squad. Always error prone in high-pressure situations and on the biggest stage - to his credit he would usually come through and provide something. Every republic test he would commit some of the most baffling brain farts with ball in hand I've seen - then 30 minutes later plow through the Bok defensive line and set up a try. Thing is at 7s every knockout game is going to be at that pressure level and he won't have 30 minutes to balance the ledger. One error could very well see us out.</p> -
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<p>I think anything less than silver is a failure, even silver will be a bit meh, but silver would be a scrape by pass, while gold is still the expectation.</p>
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<p>Gold definitely the expectation. After that it really depends on how we go out more than when. The QF->SF->GF will likely be just as difficult as the next, so losing to the eventual champions in extra time in the QF is really no different to me than "winning" silver in a game where we get blown out.</p>
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<p>The game is too competitive and the knockout structure is barely designed for the best team to win, certainly not designed for 2nd and 3rd to be ranked accurately.</p> -
<p>given it is the Olympics with more than just rugby fans watching, many wont understand how close the 7s comp is, and that many teams can beat another on their day, and it'll be this part that will 'accept' silver as a pass mark, yes the rugby community might see us bow out in the semi to SA who go on and take gold and be more accepting of it.</p>
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<p>Was listening to TAB trackside on Saturday monring and they had the rugby hour on.</p>
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<p>I think they made a good point that the AB brand could be severly hurt if the 7's don't win. The brand is starting to be recognised in the US and they won't distinguish between 7's and 15's. They will be expexcting these all conquering All Blacks at the Olympics and may see a team rolled by "unknown" Fiji etc.</p>
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<p>Made me think about it, that is for sure.</p>
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<p>I will be surprised if I make the effort to watch the 7's at the Olympics</p> -
<p>I'm unsure if there is a generic Olympics thread? If there is another, I will merge them.</p>
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<p>How is the golf being played? Stroke or Match?</p>
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<p>It's four round strokeplay, like most PGA tournaments. Pretty bland IMO, would have loved to have seen a team-based event. Would have given it a point of difference from regular events, and played up the nationalistic aspect more.</p>
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<p>It's one of the reasons players a pulling out in droves, as they don't have to worry about letting their team down.</p> -
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<p>Was listening to TAB trackside on Saturday monring and they had the rugby hour on.</p>
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<p>I think they made a good point that the AB brand could be severly hurt if the 7's don't win. The brand is starting to be recognised in the US and they won't distinguish between 7's and 15's. They will be expexcting these all conquering All Blacks at the Olympics and may see a team rolled by "unknown" Fiji etc.</p>
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<p>Made me think about it, that is for sure.</p>
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<p>I will be surprised if I make the effort to watch the 7's at the Olympics</p>
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<p>I think that's rubbish about the brand stuff given that TV viewer numbers for rugby has apparently been increasing in the USA over a number of years now. Those that will tune into the 7s won't be expecting all the AB stars that win World Cups because they know the difference because they have become more educated over several years of targeted media campaigns for their own 7s team and the tournaments.</p>
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<p>If the NZ 7s are beaten by Fiji or Saffa's I don't think it will be that much of a surprise to be honest or damaging, it will however be massive if someone else does though! </p>
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<p>I will be watching and actually looking forward to it. My daughter loves watching the 7s as well, so she is keen to watch also</p> -
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<p>No I imagine there will just be play-offs to determine medals.</p>
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<p>Three hole playoff apparently</p> -
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<p>I would advise against Googling that at work though.</p>
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<p>Only the English could be that scared of the word "playoff".</p> -
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<p><strong>I think that's rubbish about the brand stuff given that TV </strong>viewer numbers for rugby has apparently been increasing in the USA over a number of years now. Those that will tune into the 7s won't be expecting all the AB stars that win World Cups because they know the difference because they have become more educated over several years of targeted media campaigns for their own 7s team and the tournaments.</p>
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<p>If the NZ 7s are beaten by Fiji or Saffa's I don't think it will be that much of a surprise to be honest or damaging, it will however be massive if someone else does though! </p>
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<p>I will be watching and actually looking forward to it. My daughter loves watching the 7s as well, so she is keen to watch also</p>
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<p>Up here when Canada beat NZ at sevens last year it was pretty much reported Canada beats all Blacks at rugby ~ I got a shit load of ribbing about it.</p> -
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<p><strong>I think that's rubbish about the brand stuff given that TV viewer numbers for rugby has apparently been increasing in the USA over a number of years now</strong>. Those that will tune into the 7s won't be expecting all the AB stars that win World Cups because they know the difference because they have become more educated over several years of targeted media campaigns for their own 7s team and the tournaments.</p>
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<p>That was the point they were making. THe brand is getting decent coverage in the states and this could potentially ruin that if we lose to some 15's muppets but 7's elite.</p>
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<p>Hopefully your second sentance rings true.</p>
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<p>I thought they had a valid point but won't be proven until after Rio (If they don't win)</p> -
<p>The only things I routinely watch are Olympic weightlifting and athletics.</p>
