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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

It may be harsh given they no doubt put in a tremendous amount of effort, but I'm still wedded to the Olympic motto whereas these days the Olympics appear to be trending towards the "participation medal" end of the spectrum.

Thankfully we’re still a long way from medals being awarded for participation. The best on the day wins. I get some of the criticism against judged sports but I tend to give diving some slack. I guess because they’re great athletes (not some greasy dude in a suit with a rabbit in his mit) performing insanely hard athletic feats.

I don't. They're not even gymnasts, who I don't think should be in the Olympics either.

Not even gymnasts? Who ever made that claim?

[Stargazer]

Penalty corner Japan, but they miss! It's still 2 - 2. C'mon Black Sticks!

[antipodean]

@crucial said in Olympics Thread:

Nyika too classy in the first round.

Big class difference given his footwork isn't great.

[Crucial]

And again in the second. Just needs to keep clear of any wild swings and he’ll be through to the round of eight

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@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

Come on, it's bullshit. Just because something is hard, doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. As a mate said yesterday, I think magicians are fucking amazing, but I'm not giving one a gold medal.

Synchronised anything can piss off. Taking an event that exists already, then transforming it to see if your mate can match your movements is a joke. Why isnt there synchronised hurdles? Javelin? Don't get me started on "walking" (and yes, I see the parallels to swimming events). 3 x 3 basketball can bugger off too.

I think I actually prefer the skateboarding/surfing/breakdancing to that stuff.

You’re comparing someone pulling a rabbit out of a hat to a diving competition? Or hurdles or javelin to diving? I’m not a huge fan but don’t get the hate. At the end of the day I was just pleased that a really good athlete and good bloke won a gold. Relax.

I love diving. Gutsy and skilled. Yeah it has a subjective element to judging it, but I don't recall to many stories of fixing or travesties of justice - seems like the best guys win.

I equally love gymnasticts.

My hate for anything synchronised is that you've now judging (to a huge degree) on something totally different - your ability to do it at the same time and in the same way as someone else, My javelin comment is valid - why not have it, where you get points for distance, but also points for how close your mate can land his to yours? No, you say, that'd be fucking stupid? Yeah, I agree.

But it’s not really. Throwing a spear is not the same as jumping off a 10m high platform and doing a somersault and reverse pike or whatever ridiculous bodily contortions these guys do. In fact it’s an absurd comparison.

[Crucial]

Is Nyika changing hands during the fight?

[antipodean]

@crucial said in Olympics Thread:

Is Nyika changing hands during the fight?

Yes, started orthodox and keeps going to southpaw.

[antipodean]

@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

It may be harsh given they no doubt put in a tremendous amount of effort, but I'm still wedded to the Olympic motto whereas these days the Olympics appear to be trending towards the "participation medal" end of the spectrum.

Thankfully we’re still a long way from medals being awarded for participation. The best on the day wins. I get some of the criticism against judged sports but I tend to give diving some slack. I guess because they’re great athletes (not some greasy dude in a suit with a rabbit in his mit) performing insanely hard athletic feats.

I don't. They're not even gymnasts, who I don't think should be in the Olympics either.

Not even gymnasts? Who ever made that claim?

What claim, that they're not gymnasts? Clearly the person you quoted.

[Crucial]

Well his opponent bit off more than he could chew (almost literally)

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

Come on, it's bullshit. Just because something is hard, doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. As a mate said yesterday, I think magicians are fucking amazing, but I'm not giving one a gold medal.

Synchronised anything can piss off. Taking an event that exists already, then transforming it to see if your mate can match your movements is a joke. Why isnt there synchronised hurdles? Javelin? Don't get me started on "walking" (and yes, I see the parallels to swimming events). 3 x 3 basketball can bugger off too.

I think I actually prefer the skateboarding/surfing/breakdancing to that stuff.

You’re comparing someone pulling a rabbit out of a hat to a diving competition? Or hurdles or javelin to diving? I’m not a huge fan but don’t get the hate. At the end of the day I was just pleased that a really good athlete and good bloke won a gold. Relax.

I love diving. Gutsy and skilled. Yeah it has a subjective element to judging it, but I don't recall to many stories of fixing or travesties of justice - seems like the best guys win.

I equally love gymnasticts.

My hate for anything synchronised is that you've now judging (to a huge degree) on something totally different - your ability to do it at the same time and in the same way as someone else, My javelin comment is valid - why not have it, where you get points for distance, but also points for how close your mate can land his to yours? No, you say, that'd be fucking stupid? Yeah, I agree.

But it’s not really. Throwing a spear is not the same as jumping off a 10m high platform and doing a somersault and reverse pike or whatever ridiculous bodily contortions these guys do. In fact it’s an absurd comparison.

One has literally no subjective element. They simply threw the javelin further than anyone else.

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@crucial and then he wouldnt even shake hands, what a twat!

[Bovidae]

@crucial said in Olympics Thread:

Well his opponent bit off more than he could chew (almost literally)

Classy from Nyika, but what a grub the Moroccan was.

[Rancid Schnitzel]

Who paid off this ref?

[Stargazer]

Full time: Blacks Sticks 2 - 2 Japan.

Very close game. At times, I thought Japan was better and deserved the win, but then the Black Sticks came back and were close to taking the lead.

[voodoo]

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

Come on, it's bullshit. Just because something is hard, doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. As a mate said yesterday, I think magicians are fucking amazing, but I'm not giving one a gold medal.

Synchronised anything can piss off. Taking an event that exists already, then transforming it to see if your mate can match your movements is a joke. Why isnt there synchronised hurdles? Javelin? Don't get me started on "walking" (and yes, I see the parallels to swimming events). 3 x 3 basketball can bugger off too.

I think I actually prefer the skateboarding/surfing/breakdancing to that stuff.

You’re comparing someone pulling a rabbit out of a hat to a diving competition? Or hurdles or javelin to diving? I’m not a huge fan but don’t get the hate. At the end of the day I was just pleased that a really good athlete and good bloke won a gold. Relax.

I love diving. Gutsy and skilled. Yeah it has a subjective element to judging it, but I don't recall to many stories of fixing or travesties of justice - seems like the best guys win.

I equally love gymnasticts.

My hate for anything synchronised is that you've now judging (to a huge degree) on something totally different - your ability to do it at the same time and in the same way as someone else, My javelin comment is valid - why not have it, where you get points for distance, but also points for how close your mate can land his to yours? No, you say, that'd be fucking stupid? Yeah, I agree.

But it’s not really. Throwing a spear is not the same as jumping off a 10m high platform and doing a somersault and reverse pike or whatever ridiculous bodily contortions these guys do. In fact it’s an absurd comparison.

so what you're saying, is that IF there is a certain level of artistry in some skill, then its OK to take that skill and stop measuring who is best at that skill, but instead measure and reward which pair can closely replicate each others skill?

Seems sensible.

In fact, why do we stop at 2 people doing synchronised diving? Aren't there like 6 per team in the synchronised swimming? I think diving should actually be teams of 12, all diving off the platform at the same time. Far more entertaining.

Look, clearly I'm being facetious for effect. But you will never convince me that it makes sense to give out medals to people who can do pretty hard stuff looking exactly like each other. Its just really dumb

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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

It may be harsh given they no doubt put in a tremendous amount of effort, but I'm still wedded to the Olympic motto whereas these days the Olympics appear to be trending towards the "participation medal" end of the spectrum.

Thankfully we’re still a long way from medals being awarded for participation. The best on the day wins. I get some of the criticism against judged sports but I tend to give diving some slack. I guess because they’re great athletes (not some greasy dude in a suit with a rabbit in his mit) performing insanely hard athletic feats.

I don't. They're not even gymnasts, who I don't think should be in the Olympics either.

Not even gymnasts? Who ever made that claim?

What claim, that they're not gymnasts? Clearly the person you quoted.

What does that even mean? What is the relevance? They’re not even gymnasts? Are divers try hard gymnasts? Failed gymnasts that traded in the parallel bars for a 10m platform?

I hate bobsled. They’re not even rally car drivers.

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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

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@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

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Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

Come on, it's bullshit. Just because something is hard, doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. As a mate said yesterday, I think magicians are fucking amazing, but I'm not giving one a gold medal.

Synchronised anything can piss off. Taking an event that exists already, then transforming it to see if your mate can match your movements is a joke. Why isnt there synchronised hurdles? Javelin? Don't get me started on "walking" (and yes, I see the parallels to swimming events). 3 x 3 basketball can bugger off too.

I think I actually prefer the skateboarding/surfing/breakdancing to that stuff.

You’re comparing someone pulling a rabbit out of a hat to a diving competition? Or hurdles or javelin to diving? I’m not a huge fan but don’t get the hate. At the end of the day I was just pleased that a really good athlete and good bloke won a gold. Relax.

I love diving. Gutsy and skilled. Yeah it has a subjective element to judging it, but I don't recall to many stories of fixing or travesties of justice - seems like the best guys win.

I equally love gymnasticts.

My hate for anything synchronised is that you've now judging (to a huge degree) on something totally different - your ability to do it at the same time and in the same way as someone else, My javelin comment is valid - why not have it, where you get points for distance, but also points for how close your mate can land his to yours? No, you say, that'd be fucking stupid? Yeah, I agree.

But it’s not really. Throwing a spear is not the same as jumping off a 10m high platform and doing a somersault and reverse pike or whatever ridiculous bodily contortions these guys do. In fact it’s an absurd comparison.

One has literally no subjective element. They simply threw the javelin further than anyone else.

So you would agree that it’s a poor comparison?

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@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

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@mikethesnow said in Olympics Thread:

Great morning for GB

Silver in Men's Triathlon
Gold in swimming; diving; mtn biking

Silver or Gold on the way in Women's Taekwando

I thought Tom Daly had retired. That’s terrific that he finally won gold. Remember him as a 14 year old at the 2008 Olympics.

Another shit medal.

What’s shit about it?

Synchronised. Even more pathetic than normal subjective crap.

Not everyone’s cup of tea perhaps but pathetic seems rather harsh.

Come on, it's bullshit. Just because something is hard, doesn't mean it should be in the Olympics. As a mate said yesterday, I think magicians are fucking amazing, but I'm not giving one a gold medal.

Synchronised anything can piss off. Taking an event that exists already, then transforming it to see if your mate can match your movements is a joke. Why isnt there synchronised hurdles? Javelin? Don't get me started on "walking" (and yes, I see the parallels to swimming events). 3 x 3 basketball can bugger off too.

I think I actually prefer the skateboarding/surfing/breakdancing to that stuff.

You’re comparing someone pulling a rabbit out of a hat to a diving competition? Or hurdles or javelin to diving? I’m not a huge fan but don’t get the hate. At the end of the day I was just pleased that a really good athlete and good bloke won a gold. Relax.

I love diving. Gutsy and skilled. Yeah it has a subjective element to judging it, but I don't recall to many stories of fixing or travesties of justice - seems like the best guys win.

I equally love gymnasticts.

My hate for anything synchronised is that you've now judging (to a huge degree) on something totally different - your ability to do it at the same time and in the same way as someone else, My javelin comment is valid - why not have it, where you get points for distance, but also points for how close your mate can land his to yours? No, you say, that'd be fucking stupid? Yeah, I agree.

But it’s not really. Throwing a spear is not the same as jumping off a 10m high platform and doing a somersault and reverse pike or whatever ridiculous bodily contortions these guys do. In fact it’s an absurd comparison.

so what you're saying, is that IF there is a certain level of artistry in some skill, then its OK to take that skill and stop measuring who is best at that skill, but instead measure and reward which pair can closely replicate each others skill?

Seems sensible.

In fact, why do we stop at 2 people doing synchronised diving? Aren't there like 6 per team in the synchronised swimming? I think diving should actually be teams of 12, all diving off the platform at the same time. Far more entertaining.

Look, clearly I'm being facetious for effect. But you will never convince me that it makes sense to give out medals to people who can do pretty hard stuff looking exactly like each other. Its just really dumb

I never actually said anything about artistic merit and was quite clear that it was about the degree of difficulty. I think you’d admit that synchronised diving is insanely hard. Synchronised javelin - not so much.

I get you don’t like synchronised diving. Fair enough. I just don’t agree that its comparable with other sports due to the unique nature of diving. And certainly not farking javelin 😉.

[Machpants]

@stargazer said in Olympics Thread:

Full time: Blacks Sticks 2 - 2 Japan.

Very close game. At times, I thought Japan was better and deserved the win, but then the Black Sticks came back and were close to taking the lead.

What does that mean for the semis qualification?

[Bovidae]

@machpants

NZ remain third in Pool A but will probably have to win one of their last two games against world No 1 Australia or Argentina to advance to the quarters.

No chance of them beating Aussie so all on the Arg game.