Olympics Thread
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<p>Samoa might have their first Olympic medal... from the 2008 games:</p>
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<p>The silver and bronze medallists failed their retests.</p>
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<p>I'm going to be alone in this, but 8 years ago? For some reason, this feels pretty hollow to me. 8 years is a fucking long time after the fact to test. Maybe if you got away with it for that long, we just let it go?</p>
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<p>Not sure if being handed a medal 8 years after the fact is going to mean all that much either?</p> -
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<p>I'm going to be alone in this, but 8 years ago? For some reason, this feels pretty hollow to me. 8 years is a fucking long time after the fact to test. Maybe if you got away with it for that long, we just let it go?</p>
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<p>Not sure if being handed a medal 8 years after the fact is going to mean all that much either?</p>
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<p>They store samples and retest when the technology becomes more advanced. Dopers are always going to be ahead of the authorities.</p> -
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<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Not sure if being handed a medal 8 years after the fact is going to mean all that much either?</span></blockquote>
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<p>If you're a journalist it would make one hell of a story - a tiny nation robbed of its first chance to celebrate a medal due to drug cheats.</p> -
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I'm going to be alone in this, but 8 years ago? For some reason, this feels pretty hollow to me. 8 years is a fucking long time after the fact to test. Maybe if you got away with it for that long, we just let it go?<br><br>
Not sure if being handed a medal 8 years after the fact is going to mean all that much either?</p></blockquote>
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Yes it's a little hollow but I like the idea of chasing the cheats. Athletes shouldn't have to pump themselves full of carcinogens to compete and anything they can do - even shaming someone 8 years later - is good.<br><br>
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<p>I'm going to be alone in this, but 8 years ago? For some reason, this feels pretty hollow to me. 8 years is a fucking long time after the fact to test. Maybe if you got away with it for that long, we just let it go?</p>
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<p>Not sure if being handed a medal 8 years after the fact is going to mean all that much either?</p>
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<p>The statute of limitations on stripping medallists of their medals is ten years, so there's just two more years to catch Beijing Games cheaters but, frankly, it should be like 20 years because fuck em.</p>
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<p>And yeah, it might be a bit hollow for the legit winners but what good would letting the cheaters get away with it do?</p> -
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<p>They store samples and retest when the technology becomes more advanced. Dopers are always going to be ahead of the authorities.</p>
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<p>oh true.... jesus hydro, everyone knows that. </p>
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<p>Look, i get, and even completely understand the arguments for. Hell, i guess on one level i whole-heartedly agree with the procedure, even Unco's 20 years.</p>
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<p>It's just i heard that story and didn't get the same reaction i would have had it been Rio, or even London at a push. It just seems like a footnote now, rather than an achievement. </p> -
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<p>oh true.... jesus hydro, everyone knows that. </p>
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<p>Look, i get, and even completely understand the arguments for. Hell, i guess on one level i whole-heartedly agree with the procedure, even Unco's 20 years.</p>
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<p>It's just i heard that story and didn't get the same reaction i would have had it been Rio, or even London at a push. It just seems like a footnote now, rather than an achievement. </p>
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<p>I feel that way too. I would just feel even worse if drug cheats kept their medals.</p> -
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oh true.... jesus hydro, everyone knows that. <br><br>
Look, i get, and even completely understand the arguments for. Hell, i guess on one level i whole-heartedly agree with the procedure, even Unco's 20 years.<br><br>
It's just i heard that story and didn't get the same reaction i would have had it been Rio, or even London at a push. It just seems like a footnote now, rather than an achievement.</p></blockquote>
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It's not aimed at the 4th placed, now medalists. That's always going to be crappier that winning/medaling at the time.<br><br>
It's aimed as a disincentive at those who are prepared to cheat but still care about their legacy/reputation.<br><br>
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<p>I'm all for going after drug cheaters 8, 10 hell even 15 years after the event. Look at the Carter example - its going to cost Bolt his triple-triple record and I'm guessing Jamaica could have won the gold running a donkey in place of Carter. Bolt is going to be pissed off - and the stuff I've read is Jamaica has a pretty dodgy testing program. If the Jamaicans had a good testing program they might have caught Carter before he went to Olympics. So the incentive is now for guys like Bolt and clean athletes to put pressure on their governing bodies to ensure drug cheats don't get selected.</p>
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<p>Its a bit like in rugby yellow carding props who aren't good enough to hold up a scrum. To me it aimed more at coaches who select guys who can't scrummage, pick a good/decent pack or you'll be playing with 14 men. Otherwise if we don't punish poor scrums we'll end up with 8 loose forwards</p> -
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Well the Paralympics has started:
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Some results from the Paralympics, with already two medals for New Zealanders:
Women's long jump T47 (athletics) - GOLD for Anna Grimaldi
Women's 100m backstroke S7 (swimming) - BRONZE for Rebecca Dubber and Nikita Howarth finishes 6th
Women's 3km (C4) individual pursuit (cycling) - Kate Horan finishes 4th in the finalMen's 200m freestyle S5 (swimming) - Cameron Leslie qualified 5th fastest for tonight's final.
All these athletes set personal best performances.
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It's really pretty stupid the Paralympics takes place after the Olympics, it just makes it seem like an afterthought (and gives the host the opportunity to fuck them over with their budget).
Put it in front of the Olympics and you've basically got your warm-up and I think it'd draw a lot more eyes that way. Maybe even combine the two together and do something like: Opening Ceremony -> Paralympics -> Olympics -> Closing Ceremony
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@Rembrandt said in Olympics Thread:
Anyone got a good source for seeing when NZ athletes are competing? No app for the NZ paralympics team which is a shame, surely they could have just added it to the NZ olympics app. Sophie Pascoe up next in the pool.
I haven't been able to find a good schedule. This is all I found: http://www.tvnz.co.nz/paralympics2016/schedule and this doesn't give details about when NZ athletes are competing. For that, probably following social media is best, such as the FB account of the NZ Paralympic team: http://www.facebook.com/paralympicsnewzealand
