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Agreed that Cole is smart operator, although under old rules was owned by Domingo. Sio seems to me to pack with his shoulders a few inches back from normal. Almost like he wanted Moore to take the [hit]. Leave it to front row club to explain.<br>
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<p><em>This is pretty dubious. You've mentioned Sio's foot placement but haven't acknowledged the role this played in the collapsed scrums or the fact it resulted from poor set up. You don't mention that Sio was completely extended before the ball was put in. You mistaken effect for cause, for example stating Cole's bind changes from long to short and causes Sio's collapse when in fact Cole's hand clearly remains on the same part of Sio's shirt.</em></p>
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<p>Yup, Sio got his set wrong. He's at full stretch & can't hold himself up. He was trying to get a "hit" - which is very hard under the new laws, and Coles just sat back & let him drive off balance & straight into the dirt.</p> -
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<p><em>This is pretty dubious. You've mentioned Sio's foot placement but haven't acknowledged the role this played in the collapsed scrums or the fact it resulted from poor set up. You don't mention that Sio was completely extended before the ball was put in. You mistaken effect for cause, for example stating Cole's bind changes from long to short and causes Sio's collapse when in fact Cole's hand clearly remains on the same part of Sio's shirt.</em></p>
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<p>Yup, Sio got his set wrong. He's at full stretch & can't hold himself up. He was trying to get a "hit" - which is very hard under the new laws, and Coles just sat back & let him drive off balance & straight into the dirt.</p>
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<p>That's what I saw too. Cole is no angel, and may even have been hinging at some points during the game, but I have no idea what Sio is doing. His feet are an absolute mile behind him and him eating turf is always a fairly likely result there.</p> -
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<p>But, but, surely the term is whinging <u><em>poms</em></u>?</p> -
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<p>I was about to spit tea & then read this in the comments -</p>
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<p><em>This is pretty dubious. You've mentioned Sio's foot placement but haven't acknowledged the role this played in the collapsed scrums or the fact it resulted from poor set up. You don't mention that Sio was completely extended before the ball was put in. You mistaken effect for cause, for example stating Cole's bind changes from long to short and causes Sio's collapse when in fact Cole's hand clearly remains on the same part of Sio's shirt.</em></p>
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<p>Yup, Sio got his set wrong. He's at full stretch & can't hold himself up. He was trying to get a "hit" - which is very hard under the new laws, and Coles just sat back & let him drive off balance & straight into the dirt.</p>
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<p>100% this. Sio was setting himself up in a position where the only way he could keep the scrum up was if Cole hit him hard on the engage and drove upwards. Cole recognised it and didn't give him the satisfaction; took a penalty or two before the ref realised but it was definitely Sio's bad positioning that kept him kissing the dirt.</p>
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<p>Of course, once the ref realised and warned them both, Sio moved his feet closer and Cole responded by smashing him on the engage and driving over the top for the yellow. Very smart prop play, from a guy I thought was on the verge of being replaced as England's tighthead. Showed the value of experience.</p>
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<p>The Aussie media seem to be chanting the mantra of 'boring in', which is nonsense as Cole was never in a position to attack the hooker. Will be interesting to see him versus Slipper at the weekend though.</p> -
<p>I've seen a couple of aerial shots where the entire wallaby scrum is a mess, loose binds, locks poorly positioned, flankers barely hanging on. What changed from the World Cup?</p>
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I was about to spit tea & then read this in the comments -<br><br><em>This is pretty dubious. You've mentioned Sio's foot placement but haven't acknowledged the role this played in the collapsed scrums or the fact it resulted from poor set up. You don't mention that Sio was completely extended before the ball was put in. You mistaken effect for cause, for example stating Cole's bind changes from long to short and causes Sio's collapse when in fact Cole's hand clearly remains on the same part of Sio's shirt.</em><br><br>
Yup, Sio got his set wrong. He's at full stretch & can't hold himself up. He was trying to get a "hit" - which is very hard under the new laws, and Coles just sat back & let him drive off balance & straight into the dirt.</p></blockquote>
I can only hope that this disgusting play was punished with 3 points. Glad he eventually got yellowed. Getting your set up wrong needs to be driven out of the game.<br><br>
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<p>Agreed that Cole is smart operator, although under old rules was owned by Domingo. Sio seems to me to pack with his shoulders a few inches back from normal. Almost like he wanted Moore to take the [hit]. Leave it to front row club to explain.<br>
To me Corbisiero best English LH of last few years.</p>
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<p>Typically your THP leads the engagement - shoulder line just ahead of the hooker, with hooker's shoulder line just ahead of the LHP.</p>
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<p>If both sides do it about the same, you get a clean engage regardless. We're talking a few cm in each case, and you can play funny buggers with this in order to disrupt the opposition.</p> -
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<p>But, but, surely the term is whinging <u><em>poms</em></u>?</p>
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<p>It's "analysis" from the same whiny pissbag every time the Wallabies lose.</p> -
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<p>But, but, surely the term is whinging <u><em>poms</em></u>?</p>
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<p>Why do GAGR never make detailed videos about Australia cheating?</p>
<p>It's because they don't cheat and all other countries do - obviously.</p>
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