All Blacks vs Wales Test #2

sparky

If Cruden's not right, I'd start Sopoaga next week.

Billy Tell

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Crotty has been great on defence thus far. I'd like to see a Crotty - Tamanivalu combo. Might work better than Fekitoa.
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And it did!
 
Fekitoa has been borderline rubbish in the 2 tests so far. Apart from suffering a faceplant and kicking the ball away, Tamanivalu looked much better. All of a sudden the backline clicked.
 
Mass changes for the 3rd test I hope, get Sopoaga, McKenzie, Taylor, Squire, Dixon etc involved.
 
MOTM by a mile: Read. Outstanding.

dingo

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His covering defence is like Cullys, in that his pace gets him in the right place
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True, but like the kick over the top earlier that he caught in the 22 and claimed a fair catch you have to see what might be on to be close to the right place to then use your pace.
 
I remember when BB couldn't hit a tackle bag so anything is a massive improvement.
 
That last Welsh try though, I think you're a bit unfair, he made two tackles trying to stop it while playing first five and for most first fives,two tackles a match is written into the job description....

Gunner

Lima to start next week. 
Wouldn't be surprised to see both Dixon and Squire on the bench too. 
I also wonder if they'll also give BBBR a rest and give Pat T a start?

Frye

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Not sure Sopoaga will add enough as a player from the bench....certainly no one in world rugby brings anything near what BB does form the bench anyway.</blockquote>
 
Sopoaga will get the start I feel. 
Hard on Barrett but management have been preparing both him and the public for it by continually talking about what a great super sub he is.

taniwharugby

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True, but like the kick over the top earlier that he caught in the 22 and claimed a fair catch you have to see what might be on to be close to the right place to then use your pace.
 
That last Welsh try though, I think you're a bit unfair, he made two tackles trying to stop it while playing first five and for most first fives,two tackles a match is written into the job description....
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A bit unfair? Not being unfair to anyone
 
His pace gets him into places other players cant, cos they arent as quick...he showed great smarts by not driving that tackle and staying on his feet.

Billy Tell

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Try Barrett! Are you Barrett haters still thinking he's so terrible?
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No-one hates Barrett settle down man!
 
He is often a terrible goal-kicker though. I think that is about the only criticism he gets.

Frye

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No-one hates Barrett settle down man! 
He is often a terrible goal-kicker though. I think that is about the only criticism he gets.</blockquote>
 
Game management...

pooler fan

Some good rugby played by both sides but Wales fell apart a little in defence in that 2nd half. 
Turning point was around the 50 minute mark when Naholo got away with a blatant yellow, a then that Warburton interception & Faletau dropped pass with the tryline beckoning. NZ then broke down field to score - a real 14 point turnaround. 
NZ irresistible at times, BB is a wonderful footballer as is Ben Smith & Dagg - these guys create space out of nothing. Fabulous players.

Billy Tell

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Excellent second half performance from the All Blacks after a mediocre first half. I wonder what was said at half time?
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Sorry Malakai but we're sending out Tamnivalu.

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="589376" data-time="1466242186">Great come back from Wales at the end. 
Nice to win again. But.. 
A mixed bad from the All Blacks tonight. Impressive for 30 minutes, but that that's a long way for the 80 minutes high-quality win we crave.</blockquote>
 
We held a tier one side to no tries for 38 minutes in the first half. If say that was pretty damn good. 
Then the 2nd half we built pressure defensively and in attack for a good 25-30 minutes. So that's close to 70 minutes of good quality rugby IMO.

taniwharugby

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Some good rugby played by both sides but Wales fell apart a little in defence in that 2nd half. 
Turning point was around the 50 minute mark when Naholo got away with a blatant yellow, a then that Warburton interception & Faletau dropped pass with the tryline beckoning. NZ then broke down field to score - a real 14 point turnaround. 
NZ irresistible at times, BB is a wonderful footballer as is Ben Smith & Dagg - these guys create space out of nothing. Fabulous players.
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so the Welshman was lucky to stay on later on when he did the exact same thing with not even a penalty?
 
Those mid-air collisions are such a lottery these days!

dingo

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Yeah was real good on that the welsh try there, Lima's d far superior
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Yeah was real good on that the welsh try there, Lima's d far superior
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Fuck me. You clearly are blind. Go watch a replay. After the Welsh made a breakout, BB covered one player, and grabbed him so he then offloaded to a supporting player who BB tackled. That player offloaded in the tackle to someone who fended off another AB who made a weak tackle.

Billy Tell

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Some good rugby played by both sides but Wales fell apart a little in defence in that 2nd half. 
Turning point was around the 50 minute mark when Naholo got away with a blatant yellow, a then that Warburton interception & Faletau dropped pass with the tryline beckoning. NZ then broke down field to score - a real 14 point turnaround. 
NZ irresistible at times, BB is a wonderful footballer as is Ben Smith & Dagg - these guys create space out of nothing. Fabulous players.
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Yeah, that was a definite YC for mine.
 
You guys would be world champions if rugby games were only 60 minutes.
Our bench at present is the greatest in the history of AB rugby: Fuamuina, Tuipolotu, Crockett, Barrett, Savea they all bring speed plus x factor. It's the ABs major point of difference from every other single team in world rugby.

Gunner

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It's funny I thought the test was fine the whole way through.</blockquote>It probably was alright as a spectacle the whole way through. If I could manage to remove my 'I want the All Blacks to play fucking well for 80 minutes' glasses, I might have noticed.

Unco

That game is best watched as a highlight reel... Poor. Just hope Cruden comes out with a clean bill of health.
 
Next week I think I'd like to see Sopoaga and Tamanivalu starting, with Dixon or Squire on the bench. Maybe Taylor on the bench too but I don't think it really matters. Sucks for Ofa, Franklin, Moala and McKenzie to not get a game but eh, Ofa and McKenzie are young and Franklin and Moala were only injury replacements.

Toddy

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Yeah was real good on that the welsh try there, Lima's d far superior
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Am I being whooshed here? Lima would be the worst defender out of the 3.
 
Also thought Naholo should've received a yellow.

dingo

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Am I being whooshed here? Lima would be the worst defender out of the 3.
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To be fair, none of Cruden, BB or Lima defends as well as Carter in the channel. They all prefer side on versus front on defense. Carter seemed to be able to tackle front on without being Jonny Wilkinson stupid. Having said that, BB is a far better defender now days than most people give credit for.

sparky

BB's clearly worked damn hard to improve his defence in the last 2 or 3 years. His defence is much better than he was first selected for the ABs.

No Quarter

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Am I being whooshed here? Lima would be the worst defender out of the 3. 
Also thought Naholo should've received a yellow.</blockquote>Why is that? To me it looked like he was jumping for the ball, and would have taken it clean if the Welsh player wasn't there. Or are you (and others) saying he was making some sort of jumping tackle with the intention of taking the Welsh player out? Or that he should not be contesting the ball because the Welsh player jumped fractionally before him? 
I know this is an area of the game they are trying to clamp down on, but it's starting to get a bit silly IMO.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs Wales Test #2