Super Rugby - Who's it going to be?

canefan

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No way can NZ rugby's mental midgets be favourites to win. Canes will crumble under pressure before the Chiefs run out of puff.
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I love my Canes but no way I'm picking us as favourites for anything in the playoffs. If we win it will be an unexpected surprise and I will say a silent prayer of thanks to the sports gods that finally allow us to have a day in the sun

taniwharugby

a stat came up on the TV last night in the canes game, no foreign team has won a playoff game in NZ.

nzzp

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a stat came up on the TV last night in the canes game, no foreign team has won a playoff game in NZ.
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... and only one playoff win after an international flight (saders in Brumbyland around the turn of the century I believe)
 
EDIT: Should probably be FINAL only - not playoffs in general. My bad. Don't y'all know that 78.43% of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.

canefan

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... and only one playoff win after an international flight (saders in Brumbyland around the turn of the century I believe)
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Don't tease me

taniwharugby

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... and only one playoff win after an international flight (saders in Brumbyland around the turn of the century I believe
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pretty sure the Highlanders travelled before Wellington last year, just not from SA.

Bovidae

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pretty sure the Highlanders travelled before Wellington last year, just not from SA.
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Yep, beat the Tahs in Sydney. A 3 h flight across the Ta$man is not the same as flying to SA from NZ or vice versa. There is a reason no team has won after that trip. The Sharks went from Brisbane to Cape Town to Hamilton in 2012 and got blown away in the final.

nzzp

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Don't tease me
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I'm an ex Wellingtonian for my sins. I am well aware that the cruellest losses are preceded by the highest of expectations.
 
 
 
I made an error above - pretty sure the stat was linked to the final only, not playoffs in general. Problem linked with having beer for lunch on a Sunday? Possibly, but don't judge me.

canefan

Where rugby union finals and the ranfurly shield are concerned Wellington and hurricanes rugby deserve no favouritism

booboo

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... and only one playoff win after an international flight (saders in Brumbyland around the turn of the century I believe) 
EDIT: Should probably be FINAL only - not playoffs in general. My bad. Don't y'all know that 78.43% of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.</blockquote>
 
:) 
I know you've qualified your original post but for the Party at Tony Brown's the Clan wpn in Cape Town and Saders won in Brissy (I think)

booboo

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I know you've qualified your original post but for the Party at Tony Brown's the Clan wpn in Cape Town and Saders won in Brissy (I think)</blockquote>
 
Hence played Sunday arvo to hive the Clan some extra time. 
Didn't work.

hurricane

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="599767" data-time="1469339199">Where rugby union finals and the ranfurly shield are concerned Wellington and hurricanes rugby deserve no favouritism</blockquote> I live in Upper Hutt and dragged anyone I could with me to watch the Lions play cantabs for the NPC final some 4-5 years ago. Back in days of yore when Sopoanga was a Lion. Wellington shit the bed and actually revealed that they didn't really have a game plan other than "lets do things differently because it is a final", while Cantabs knew exactly what they were doing all match long due to their extensive playoff rugby experience that is part of their very DNA. We lost despite being shit hot favourites going into the match. So yeah I feel your statement but in a semi they should be good to go, where the old ghosts from the past emerge will be the final. Even going back to the days of Bernie Fraser and watching televised games from Athletic park I can't recall Wellington coming through in the big games, although if memory serves they did have the Ranfurly shield in that era at one stage. Sorry if this post is off topic, your post caught my eye and made me nod my head in agreement.

canefan

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I live in Upper Hutt and dragged anyone I could with me to watch the Lions play cantabs for the NPC final some 4-5 years ago. Back in days of yore when Sopoanga was a Lion. 
Wellington shit the bed and actually revealed that they didn't really have a game plan other than "lets do things differently because it is a final", 
while Cantabs knew exactly what they were doing all match long due to their extensive playoff rugby experience that is part of their very DNA. 
We lost despite being shit hot favourites going into the match. 
So yeah I feel your statement but in a semi they should be good to go, where the old ghosts from the past emerge will be the final. 
Even going back to the days of Bernie Fraser and watching televised games from Athletic park I can't recall Wellington coming through in the big games, although 
if memory serves they did have the Ranfurly shield in that era at one stage. 
Sorry if this post is off topic, your post caught my eye and made me nod my head in agreement.
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We won the shield off the mooloos and only managed one defence (Marlborough) before Canterbury took it off us. I still remember Wayne Smith's try in Bernie's corner

hurricane

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="599815" data-time="1469348179">We won the shield off the mooloos and only managed one defence (Marlborough) before Canterbury took it off us. I still remember Wayne Smith's try in Bernie's corner</blockquote> FMD Bernie's corner, what memories that brings back. It is a Sunday night and you have actually brought a few memories back with your mention of that, so I hope you don't mind if I just mention them quickly, despite living in Upper Hutt I grew up in the TRON as a youngster so followed Waikato intensely. I recall the general fever about the Mooloo's run with the shield and the Arthur Stone intercept. We even had our own song on the radio went something like this: "Up and under there she goes, Are you ready yes or no, Up and under there she goes that's the sound of the waikato front row". Back in those days the most esteemed position to play I recall was in the front row. The Radio was quite good those days, there was also a very good number about yer Cantabs during their magnificent run with shield something about "red and black's got the shield etc" Good times

canefan

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FMD Bernie's corner, what memories that brings back. 
It is a Sunday night and you have actually brought a few memories back with your mention of that, so I hope you don't mind if I just mention them quickly, 
despite living in Upper Hutt I grew up in the TRON as a youngster so followed Waikato intensely. 
I recall the general fever about the Mooloo's run with the shield and the Arthur Stone intercept. We even had our own song on the radio went something like this: 
"Up and under there she goes, 
Are you ready yes or no, 
Up and under there she goes 
that's the sound of the waikato front row". 
Back in those days the most esteemed position to play I recall was in the front row. 
The Radio was quite good those days, there was also a very good number about yer Cantabs during their magnificent run with shield something about 
"red and black's got the shield etc" 
Good times :)
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The Cantab tenure and the Orcs era after that were two of the greatest ever

hurricane

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="599821" data-time="1469349418">The Cantab tenure and the Orcs era after that were two of the greatest ever</blockquote> What year was the match Cantabs lost it to Auckland (the Ranfurly shield). 1985? I think I found it.

canefan

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What year was the match Cantabs lost it to Auckland (the Ranfurly shield). 1985? I think I found it.
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I remember the orcs scoring and the crowd were almost spilling into the in goal Lancaster Park was so full

Crazy Horse

I remember JK deliberately slapping the ball over the dead ball line at the end. Should have been a penalty. The Cantabs were robbed!

hurricane

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="600056" data-time="1469421689">I remember JK deliberately slapping the ball over the dead ball line at the end. Should have been a penalty. The Cantabs were robbed!</blockquote> I watched the last gripping 15 minutes on youtube last night. Had me on the edge of my seat still after all of these years. Boy lineouts were a joke before lifting was allowed. My overriding feeling watching the match back in 1985 was that Cantabs simply didn't beleive they could beat Auckland until the very end when they got a roll on. And you get that vibe from the youtube clip. You can actually almost see the Cantabs get their tails up with ten minutes to go.

Chris B.

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I watched the last gripping 15 minutes on youtube last night. Had me on the edge of my seat still after all of these years. Boy lineouts were a joke before lifting was allowed. 
My overriding feeling watching the match back in 1985 was that Cantabs simply didn't beleive they could beat Auckland until the very end when they 
got a roll on. And you get that vibe from the youtube clip. You can actually almost see the Cantabs get their tails up with ten minutes to go.
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I was at that game. There was no shortage of belief that we would win before the match - we did not fear Auckland in 1985 - but, by halftime belief had pretty much dissipated, at least among the crowd.
 
One of the greatest comebacks (and matches) ever. Certainly the best match I've ever been to.

hurricane

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="600111" data-time="1469432778">I was at that game. There was no shortage of belief that we would win before the match - we did not fear Auckland in 1985 - but, by halftime belief had pretty much dissipated, at least among the crowd. One of the greatest comebacks (and matches) ever. Certainly the best match I've ever been to.</blockquote> Well I am very envious. I treasure the memory of simply watching that fantastic encounter on TV let alone being at the match. It had always been my belief though up until your post that Cantabs were a bit in awe of AKL, perhaps it was quotes in the media or just the way the media built it up. I appreciate you letting me know that the players and general vibe was positive though going into it, that is quite interesting. The sound of the crowd when canterbury scored their final try was tremendous even on the clip.

The Silver Fern

Super Rugby - Who&#39;s it going to be?

Super Rugby - Who's it going to be?