Moana Pasifika v Highlanders
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@Landers92 said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
As I stated above no changes at lock with some changes in the loosies. Backline remains the same with TK Howden and Te Hiwi coming on to the bench. Love that we haven’t rotated for the sake of it. Renton drops out of the 23 for Howden. Very quick loose forward trio which isn’t a surprise, gives an idea of what JJ is expecting from Moana.
- BARTLETT
- VIKENA
- SEFO KAUTAI
- FABIAN HOLLAND
- MITCH DUNSHEA
- SEAN WITHY
- VEVENI LASAGA
- NIKORA BROUGHTON
- FOLAU FAKATAVA
- TAINE ROBINSON
- CALEB TANGITAU
- TIMOCI TAVATAVANAWAI [C)
- TANIELU TELE'A
- SAM GILBERT
- FINN HURLEY
BENCH
16. JACK TAYLOR
17. ETHAN DE GROOT
18. SAULA MA’U
19. WILL STODART
20. TK HOWDEN
21. NATHAN HASTIE
22. CAMERON MILLAR
23. JAKE TE HIWIThere is a bit of rotation. Which says there is some trust in the squad. Both the starting props who had some injury issues last week get big numbers. While Renton looks to have a week off.
Good to see some consistency in the backline. Hoping Te Hiwi has fixed his dropsies is he gets on.
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@SouthernMann front row was more or less forced due to the knocks taken last week + DLB, other than that the only change to the starting XV is at 8 with Renton. Glad we didn’t see big rotation like some were wanting.
Still a solid team with the changes made and a solid bench that we now know can add something to the game when needed. Looking forward to seeing TK make his debut.
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@SouthernMann I think Renton has lowkey been left out because they want to test how it looks without him… he was subbed pretty early v the Blues.
I noticed Jamie discussing Withy’s onfield leadership
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@frugby Renton has picked up a niggle so that’s why he’s out of the 23 all together.
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@Nogusta said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@frugby Renton was just straight dropped. But will be back after the bye. Fakatava is 50/50. Strained hammy today apparently.
How does that work? If he was dropped then wouldn't it be up in the air whether he's brought back after the bye?
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@Nogusta said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@frugby Renton was just straight dropped. But will be back after the bye. Fakatava is 50/50. Strained hammy today apparently.
You've got one of the best hit rates on this forum! Interesting about Renton. Almost like he was the insurance option if Jim didn't work as the primary captain. Good oil.
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@Nepia dropped, 'rested' rotated out of the match day 23 for a game whatever you want to call it.
The coach himself said he was dropped for a game in the team meeting and gave him his list of work ons.
Hastie was KOd in the team run so Landers could be scraping the halfback barrel if Hastie & FF are ruled out -
@Nogusta said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
dropped, 'rested' rotated out of the match day 23 for a game whatever you want to call it.
To me they're different. Dropped for poor performance is different than rested/rotated to allow rest time/another player to get game time.
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@Nepia said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@Nogusta said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
dropped, 'rested' rotated out of the match day 23 for a game whatever you want to call it.
To me they're different. Dropped for poor performance is different than rested/rotated to allow rest time/another player to get game time.
Dropped and "rested" are probably the same though.
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@Bones said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@Nepia said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@Nogusta said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
dropped, 'rested' rotated out of the match day 23 for a game whatever you want to call it.
To me they're different. Dropped for poor performance is different than rested/rotated to allow rest time/another player to get game time.
Dropped and "rested" are probably the same though.
To me they're not, what if the player is to be rested on a schedule? Three games and then a rest? I don't think that is being dropped.
But I guess it's all just semantics really.
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@Nepia said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@Nepia said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
@Nogusta said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
dropped, 'rested' rotated out of the match day 23 for a game whatever you want to call it.
To me they're different. Dropped for poor performance is different than rested/rotated to allow rest time/another player to get game time.
Dropped and "rested" are probably the same though.
To me they're not, what if the player is to be rested on a schedule? Three games and then a rest? I don't think that is being dropped.
But I guess it's all just semantics really.
There's a distinction to be made between rested and "rested".
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The difference between dropped and rested, will be if Broughton plays well and gets dropped for the round five game against the Hurricanes. Then Renton was rested. If Broughton plays well, and is retained. Renton was dropped. If Broughton has an average game, and Renton comes back, we don't really know...
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I could plausibly believe Renton was dropped, because he gave away a dumb penalty and then was hooked, but again I can categorically say there is a hip niggle too…
I suspect this is might be a situation where the niggle is a good excuse to give someone else a run. Both can probably be true.
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from what little ive seen of renton i very much doubt he would want to keep his spot just because he was named captain, if other put their hand up i think he would give then a boost, he is very much moving into the group of players that seem to "get it", not just their for the paycheck
so, if its rest...no issue....if other are surpassing him....no issue...if its just trying to build depth...no issue
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@SouthernMann said in Moana Pasifika v Highlanders:
The difference between dropped and rested, will be if Broughton plays well and gets dropped for the round five game against the Hurricanes. Then Renton was rested. If Broughton plays well, and is retained. Renton was dropped. If Broughton has an average game, and Renton comes back, we don't really know...
For the first time in a long time, it is a case of who do we have to leave out, rather than who should we play.
Broughton has had two great cameos, Withy has been outstanding, responding to missing out on the captaincy really well.
Only position there is no real competition is prop, but overall the picture is great.
