Australia v India
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Would Travis Head be the best cricketer in the world right now?
Absolutely not.
That would be Harry Brook.
In terms of results and excitement generated.
Travis Head is a very good test batsman but Harry Brook is a generational talent.
Now that the Rachin Ravindra disagreement has died down I’m all set to argue this one with you
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Travis Head is a very good test batsman but Harry Brook is a generational talent.
how do you rate him vs Gayle?
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Plenty of Pace Bowling depth in Australia, probably time to blood one soon while Cummins has 3 years left to lead the attack.
Corey J Rocchiccioli,Spencer Johnson still has 5 years left in him.Lance Morris is quick.Sean Abbott
all could do a job very well.
Jye Richardson is still around.
And there is some decent quicks coming through from the u/19s Callum Vidler and Mahli Beardman who clocks mid 140ks at 19 and will get quicker. -
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Travis Head is a very good test batsman but Harry Brook is a generational talent.
how do you rate him vs Gayle?
Far less tatts, much pastier, no dreads……less controversial, less dodgy come ons to hot female reporters…..
He has a lot of work to do.
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@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
Hazelwood on last legs with ageing type of injuries,
holy shit, this! He missed the last test with a side strain - and then struglged to get past 5 overs in this test. Unfortunate, but you do wonder if he's done now.
he's 34 in Jan, Starc is 35 in Jan, Cummins is 32 in May -
In spite of Starc’s aging, I don’t think he has ever bowled so well of recent times. The pace is still there but his control is excellent.
If I were starting a cricket team it would be Bumrah and Starc opening the bowling.
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Yeah he's looked great. Easily the best first over bowler I've seen, he seems to take a ridiculous number of wickets in all formats. As an opener you'd be shitting yourself, knowing there's a late swinging yorker on its way...
Edit: hard to say which was his best first over wicket, but in terms of consequence it's close between BMac in the 2015 World Cup Final or Rory Burns first ball of the 2021 Ashes
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@barbarian that BMac wicket really derailed us, he was so dangerous that tournament and if he'd gotten away even just a bit and got a quick 30 or 40, our confidence would have been right up. It wasn't just that he got him out first over as well, the manner of the dismissal put us on the back foot; BMac didn't even look like hitting it, the ball was just way too good for him.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Would Travis Head be the best cricketer in the world right now?
Head has been going well but his record even in recent times is only very good without being great. For me Bumrah is at the top, conditions at home don't often suit him and playing overseas is always challenging, but he just continues to carve up and his record just gets better all the time. Incredible player. After that I have Kane, he has been consistently the best batsmen in the world for a number of years now but just doesn't play as much as the others. He is aging like a fine wine at the moment, consistently knocking out 50s and 100s whenever he gets the chance, which won't be for a while now as our summer of tests appears to be over already...
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@Chris said in Australia v India:
Lance Morris is quick
think he was meant to tour India but got injured, have heard he is quick
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Marsh now gone to Deep
meanwhile Bumrah's average has dropped down to 19.61....elite
and a current series average of 11.25 lol
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This is fucking hilarious. We might lose from here
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Surely not... could make for an interesting chase though if weather permits
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@bayimports said in Australia v India:
Surely not... could make for an interesting chase though if weather permits
More quick wickets.
Pant to go nuts.
Conceivable.
Indian fans were doing the rain dance yesterday. Might be Aussie fans today!
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
Indian fans were doing the rain dance yesterday. Might be Aussie fans today!
dont think you have to worry, rain is very close apparently
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@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
@barbarian that BMac wicket really derailed us, he was so dangerous that tournament and if he'd gotten away even just a bit and got a quick 30 or 40, our confidence would have been right up. It wasn't just that he got him out first over as well, the manner of the dismissal put us on the back foot; BMac didn't even look like hitting it, the ball was just way too good for him.
100%. I remember watching and thinking 'game over' the moment he knocked him over. He was so important in NZ's run that tournament.
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Bumrah has a huge chunk of India's wickets this series. Without him they'd be very middling
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Declaration.
Ten good balls from victory
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
Bumrah has a huge chunk of India's wickets this series. Without him they'd be very middling
absolutely I agree with @No-Quarter about Bumrah best cricketer in the world right now, he has the cheat code
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@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@Chris said in Australia v India:
Lance Morris is quick
think he was meant to tour India but got injured, have heard he is quick
Yeah he is quick sprays it a bit hence his nickname Wild thing.
The quickest could be 19 year old Mahli Beardman he already is bowling 145ks ,
He has a contract with the Scorchers for the Big Bash. -
Travis Head apparently has an injured groin. No good.
Boland in for Hoff but wondering who the next batsman in line will be?
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@NTA Bancroft đŸ˜€
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Bus Change has used up his nine batting lives it seems.
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@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Would Travis Head be the best cricketer in the world right now?
Head has been going well but his record even in recent times is only very good without being great. For me Bumrah is at the top, conditions at home don't often suit him and playing overseas is always challenging, but he just continues to carve up and his record just gets better all the time. Incredible player. After that I have Kane, he has been consistently the best batsmen in the world for a number of years now but just doesn't play as much as the others. He is aging like a fine wine at the moment, consistently knocking out 50s and 100s whenever he gets the chance, which won't be for a while now as our summer of tests appears to be over already...
Interesting point.
In the absence of world class all rounders ( Ashwin and Jadeja have fantastic numbers but definite home track bullies ) is the best player a bowler or batsman ?
Brook and Bumrah are absolute first picks in a World XI for me.
Maybe Bumrah is the best based on more longevity?
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
Travis Head apparently has an injured groin. No good.
Boland in for Hoff but wondering who the next batsman in line will be?
They will bring in Konstas and move McSweeney down the order. But I think they would rather play Head on one leg.
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R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
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Cummins said that Head has a tight quad and will be fine for Boxing Day
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@MN5 Let's not get carried away.
Brooks has played 6 matches in Pakistan, 5 in NZ - against teams that were in the main off their game and the rest at home.
Yes he looks the goods, but it's very early days yet. In this latest series alone, he probably had as many chances as Loosebuschange has had against India
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@dogmeat said in Australia v India:
@MN5 Let's not get carried away.
Brooks has played 6 matches in Pakistan, 5 in NZ - against teams that were in the main off their game and the rest at home.
Yes he looks the goods, but it's very early days yet. In this latest series alone, he probably had as many chances as Loosebuschange has had against India
I’m judging on how he looks as much as the stats. He is awesome to watch and guys like him in form will keep test cricket well and truly alive.
You’re right, lots of others have had fantastic starts and petered out a bit. He’s possibly not quite there yet but the signs are there.
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@nzzp said in Australia v India:
R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
11 player of the series awards which is highest by an India. So influence on a match cannot be understated
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@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
11 player of the series awards which is highest by an India. So influence on a match cannot be understated
Great player not the most liked person by other players.
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@Chris said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
11 player of the series awards which is highest by an India. So influence on a match cannot be understated
Great player not the most liked person by other players.
Still a great competitor .History will also judge him as a home track bully too, still, it’s not enough to just play at home, you have to perform and he sure did that !
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Indeed, most of us would love to be good enough to be home/flat track bullies at a decent level of cricket...
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Will remember him the same way I remember Anil Kumble. Great bowler, great record, but never one you'd type into Youtube to watch his highlights. Grinding and dour.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Will remember him the same way I remember Anil Kumble. Great bowler, great record, but never one you'd type into Youtube to watch his highlights. Grinding and dour.
What ?!?!?!?
That is a weird take.
Probably the most interesting finger spinner I've seen.
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@Donsteppa said in Australia v India:
Indeed, most of us would love to be good enough to be home/flat track bullies at a decent level of cricket...
Or in my case literally in my backyard. One of my brothers would bat all day and then bowl me out within an over. The fluffybunny.
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@Chris said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
11 player of the series awards which is highest by an India. So influence on a match cannot be understated
Great player not the most liked person by other players.
Still a great competitor .History will also judge him as a home track bully too, still, it’s not enough to just play at home, you have to perform and he sure did that !
Dont think that is entirely true either, bowling average over 30 only in Aus, Eng and SA (and 1 match only in NZ) , but contributions with the bat have been impressive from a number 7 at times.
I would say his most famous was his 39* in Sydney over and above any of his 6 x 100sSure dominated at home, but has some great stats even if it is not one we generally think about
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@Chris said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
11 player of the series awards which is highest by an India. So influence on a match cannot be understated
Great player not the most liked person by other players.
Still a great competitor .Which is interesting as he always speaks well to the media and comes across as really nice.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@Chris said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
R Ashwin retires.
Amazing player
11 player of the series awards which is highest by an India. So influence on a match cannot be understated
Great player not the most liked person by other players.
Still a great competitor .Which is interesting as he always speaks well to the media and comes across as really nice.
He is what he is difficult.
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Konstas in, young kid in form no fear, lets see if he makes debut on boxing day..ballsy call but I like it from Aus selectors
Edit: surprised McSweeny the scapegoat though
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@bayimports said in Australia v India:
Konstas in, young kid in form no fear, lets see if he makes debut on boxing day..ballsy call but I like it from Aus selectors
He is a real talent, I would not be surprised to see him succeed.
Even though he is 19 he could be the next big Aussie batting star.
I have seen him bat for a couple of years at the Aussie u/19 nationals.He has an all round game certaintly has no fear.
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