Australia v India
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Marsh was in great form with the bat last summer and before that in the Ashes, so has earned his spot that way.
Cam Green is the incumbent allrounder but the curse of back injuries has sadly struck.
The ageing team is clearly an issue, but if they keep on being competitive it's hard to move away from the lifelong mantra of the Aussie Test Team - you don't break a formula that's winning.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
here we go, Sept 2018
“He is an extremely popular member of the team, he has great humility and, given his lineage, he understands and respects the responsibility which comes with representing Australia and Australians,” Hohns said.Australia have terrific specialist batsmen and bowlers growing on trees……but by golly their all rounders of late have been average as fuck.
Cam Green slander there, especially on this site considering he dismantled NZ at home earlier this year.
Following in the footsteps of the great Shane Watson.
Ancient history.
If you want to see a great all round performance check how Mitchell Santner ( who I’ve always been a huge fan of ) has gone in his last few outings.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
The ageing team is clearly an issue, but if they keep on being competitive it's hard to move away from the lifelong mantra of the Aussie Test Team - you don't break a formula that's winning.
They've hardly been winning consistently (well not like we used to expect from them)
Im not suggesting throwing them all out by the way, but perhaps rotating 1-2 out with some younger ones, to give younger ones experience and to enhance the longevity of the ageing ones -
Yeah I get what you're saying. There's a readymade fast bowling replacement in Scott Boland, who is class. A few other decent ones in the wings, guys like Michael Neser, Nathan McAndrew.
Batting presents more of an issue. Though I read an interesting piece about how the change in Kookaburra ball has made batting harder in Australia, particularly in the top order. Ball zips around more. So comparisons to the 'glory days' where blokes averaged 50 for fun might not be valid.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Yeah I get what you're saying. There's a readymade fast bowling replacement in Scott Boland, who is class. A few other decent ones in the wings, guys like Michael Neser, Nathan McAndrew.
Here is the catch, Boland is 35 as well and the others have not really been exposed at this level (except for Jye who is continuously broken)
think I would like to see a couple of these others so rolled through
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For the record Im sure the depth is there in batting and bowling, it just doesnt get exposed as much
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
@nzzp look... (sigh) Marsh has made some good contributions of late, and Cam Green's not doing himself any favours on the injury front in terms of selecting an all rounder.
Also: eat a bag of dicks.
if you want to start a club, the website MMCGFH.com is available (Mitch Marsh Can Go Fuck Himself)
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@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@NTA said in Australia v India:
@nzzp look... (sigh) Marsh has made some good contributions of late, and Cam Green's not doing himself any favours on the injury front in terms of selecting an all rounder.
Also: eat a bag of dicks.
if you want to start a club, the website MMCGFH.com is available (Mitch Marsh Can Go Fuck Himself)
A computer nerd like @NTA could whip that up in his lunch break
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@NTA said in Australia v India:
@nzzp look... (sigh) Marsh has made some good contributions of late, and Cam Green's not doing himself any favours on the injury front in terms of selecting an all rounder.
Also: eat a bag of dicks.
if you want to start a club, the website MMCGFH.com is available (Mitch Marsh Can Go Fuck Himself)
A computer nerd like @NTA could whip that up in his lunch break
surprised we can't use his anger as a renewable energy source to drive steam turbines and power his house. Better than solar and more reliable!
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Would Travis Head be the best cricketer in the world right now?
Absolutely not.
That would be Harry Brook.
In terms of results and excitement generated.
Travis Head is a very good test batsman but Harry Brook is a generational talent.
Now that the Rachin Ravindra disagreement has died down I’m all set to argue this one with you
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Plenty of Pace Bowling depth in Australia, probably time to blood one soon while Cummins has 3 years left to lead the attack.
Corey J Rocchiccioli,Spencer Johnson still has 5 years left in him.Lance Morris is quick.Sean Abbott
all could do a job very well.
Jye Richardson is still around.
And there is some decent quicks coming through from the u/19s Callum Vidler and Mahli Beardman who clocks mid 140ks at 19 and will get quicker. -
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Travis Head is a very good test batsman but Harry Brook is a generational talent.
how do you rate him vs Gayle?
Far less tatts, much pastier, no dreads……less controversial, less dodgy come ons to hot female reporters…..
He has a lot of work to do.
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@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
Hazelwood on last legs with ageing type of injuries,
holy shit, this! He missed the last test with a side strain - and then struglged to get past 5 overs in this test. Unfortunate, but you do wonder if he's done now.
he's 34 in Jan, Starc is 35 in Jan, Cummins is 32 in May -
In spite of Starc’s aging, I don’t think he has ever bowled so well of recent times. The pace is still there but his control is excellent.
If I were starting a cricket team it would be Bumrah and Starc opening the bowling.
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Yeah he's looked great. Easily the best first over bowler I've seen, he seems to take a ridiculous number of wickets in all formats. As an opener you'd be shitting yourself, knowing there's a late swinging yorker on its way...
Edit: hard to say which was his best first over wicket, but in terms of consequence it's close between BMac in the 2015 World Cup Final or Rory Burns first ball of the 2021 Ashes
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@barbarian that BMac wicket really derailed us, he was so dangerous that tournament and if he'd gotten away even just a bit and got a quick 30 or 40, our confidence would have been right up. It wasn't just that he got him out first over as well, the manner of the dismissal put us on the back foot; BMac didn't even look like hitting it, the ball was just way too good for him.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Would Travis Head be the best cricketer in the world right now?
Head has been going well but his record even in recent times is only very good without being great. For me Bumrah is at the top, conditions at home don't often suit him and playing overseas is always challenging, but he just continues to carve up and his record just gets better all the time. Incredible player. After that I have Kane, he has been consistently the best batsmen in the world for a number of years now but just doesn't play as much as the others. He is aging like a fine wine at the moment, consistently knocking out 50s and 100s whenever he gets the chance, which won't be for a while now as our summer of tests appears to be over already...
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@Chris said in Australia v India:
Lance Morris is quick
think he was meant to tour India but got injured, have heard he is quick