All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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A few of the old fullas have to say goodbye to starting. There's no other option.
9-10-12 didn't work and isn't going to work next game.
Razor has to be courageous. -
@kpkanz said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
We were dominating until the intercept. They didn't once look like scoring a try.
Maybe toughing a win will hopefully be a turning point, but you have to ask what caused us to go from dominating to narrowly winning by 1 point - and even that was down to England missing two kicks we gifted to them thru appalling discipline.
And comparing tis team to the 2013 vintage is a bit fanciful, I reckon
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@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Thanks for that - watching it, I suddenly realised that on my dodgy-stream - I didn't actually see a single one of the points being scored. Filled in the gaps of my torrid watching experience nicely.
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ABs definitely the better team but battled the ref, the crowd, and their own stupidity. England were playing the ball off the ground and had a free pass at the breakdown defending their line. Gardner, give yourself a sternum punch.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
Would you rather be the ABs creating opportunities or England creating none? No one is saying it was flawless. Pretty fucking sure we're all frustrated AF with all the missed opportunities we don't finish. But we scored three tries, finished the game stronger, and win despite ourselves. England fluffed kicks at the end.
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Wallace Sititi was my player of the day, fuck he’s awesome. Mark Telea had some beautiful touches as well and how about that try.
Beauden isn’t the answer at 10, kick…kick…kick. Jesus Christ, we looked more like England than England at times. Where’s the innovation?
Fair play to Aumua as well, his line out throwing was pretty solid for the most part and played a full 77 mins.
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@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
Would you rather be the ABs creating opportunities or England creating none? No one is saying it was flawless. Pretty fucking sure we're all frustrated AF with all the missed opportunities we don't finish. But we scored three tries, finished the game stronger, and win despite ourselves. England fluffed kicks at the end.
I'd rather the AB's focussed on scoring and didn't have such shit discipline a team producing minimal opportunities loses a game by 1 point - despite the AB's keeping them in the game .
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
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Discipline is the massive work on for the ABs.
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Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
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Couldn't be arsed getting up to watch this crop of ABs...15 mins into replay and I've had enough...
We are not developing enough new talent, BB and Ardie are well beyond their used by dates. Cane not quite as bad.... But worth a mention too.
End of year tours were once used to to give new blood a chance...
I had really hoped for better from Razor this year
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
Close thing, but I'm hoping that win is a turning point and we'll get ourselves up for the Oirish game. In fact i'd be sweet if they blew it in the last 5 minutes like today.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
Close thing, but I'm hoping that win is a turning point and we'll get ourselves up for the Oirish game. In fact i'd be sweet if they blew it in the last 5 minutes like today.
3-0 vs England in 2024. Each one could have gone the other way. Happy days.
Happiest man in England tonight, Razor. -
@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
Our lineout is crap, leadership is crap, composure is crap, discipline is crap, inside backs crap
Still cant wait for the next game. Bring it on. -
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
Our lineout is crap, leadership is crap, composure is crap, discipline is crap, inside backs crap
Still cant wait for the next game. Bring it on.Definitely a work in progress. I am hoping for a signature win to turn the corner and get an era going.
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@canefan what if, they somehow manage to win the next 2 playing so ugly...learning to win ugly will surely lead to some 'prettier' wins down the road?
