• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Blacks EOYT

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
1.0k Posts 83 Posters 58.9k Views
All Blacks EOYT
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to reprobate on last edited by
    #454

    @reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @reprobate

    He gets to rucks that Blackadder and Cane don't. He's actually better suited to the wider game plan for that reason.

    If you watch 34 year old McCaw in the 2015 RWC he's got a lot more speed about him than 30 year old Sam Cane did.

    Personally I think Blackadder has acceptable speed for a loosie. You don't see him getting skinned in the defensive line like Cane and he can hit onto the ball hard. One video of him running slowly seems to carry a lot of weight. I'd like to see some good ruck stats on our loosies.
    McCaw was reasonably quick when young, quite a bit less so by the end of his career, but he had a truly great ability to read the play and be in the right place.

    Being busy and ineffective is tiring

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Mr Fish
    replied to Frank on last edited by
    #455

    @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Have a horrible feeling (just based on how conservatve Razor has been) that Blackadder might start ahead of Sititi in big games and that TJP gets one of the halfback spots.

    I would assume Blackadder slots straight into the 20 jersey for the big matches (but probably gets one start against one of the big three).

    Perenara will probably be on the bench for a couple of those games simply because Roigard is still pretty short of minutes.

    S 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Daffy JaffyD Offline
    Daffy JaffyD Offline
    Daffy Jaffy
    wrote on last edited by Daffy Jaffy
    #456

    Japan v New Zealand
    Venue: Nissan Stadium, Yokohama
    Referee: Jordan Way (RA)
    Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (RA), Reuben Keane (RA)
    TMO: Damon Murphy (RA)
    FPRO: Brett Cronan (RA)

    England v New Zealand
    Venue: Allianz Stadium, Twickenham
    Referee: Angus Gardner (RA)
    Assistant Referees: Pierre Brousset (FFR), Jordan Way (RA)
    TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen (SARU)
    FPRO: Marius Jonker (SARU)

    Ireland v New Zealand
    Venue: Aviva Stadium, Dublin
    Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
    Assistant Referees: Karl Dickson (RFU), Andrea Piardi (FIR)
    TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)
    FPRO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

    France v New Zealand
    Venue: Stade de France, Saint-Denis
    Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
    Assistant Referees: Matthew Carley (RFU), Andrea Piardi (FIR)
    TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)
    FPRO: Ian Tempest (RFU)

    J 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • UniteU Offline
    UniteU Offline
    Unite
    wrote on last edited by
    #457

    I actually think we have done pretty well with those appointments, aside from the France Test (who is a good ref anyway) all regular Super rugby refs we are used to.

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    Jet
    replied to Daffy Jaffy on last edited by
    #458

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Japan v New Zealand
    Venue: Nissan Stadium, Yokohama
    Referee: Jordan Way (RA)
    Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (RA), Reuben Keane (RA)
    TMO: Damon Murphy (RA)
    FPRO: Brett Cronan (RA)

    England v New Zealand
    Venue: Allianz Stadium, Twickenham
    Referee: Angus Gardner (RA)
    Assistant Referees: Pierre Brousset (FFR), Jordan Way (RA)
    TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen (SARU)
    FPRO: Marius Jonker (SARU)

    Ireland v New Zealand
    Venue: Aviva Stadium, Dublin
    Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
    Assistant Referees: Karl Dickson (RFU), Andrea Piardi (FIR)
    TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)
    FPRO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

    France v New Zealand
    Venue: Stade de France, Saint-Denis
    Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
    Assistant Referees: Matthew Carley (RFU), Andrea Piardi (FIR)
    TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)
    FPRO: Ian Tempest (RFU)

    Only wild card ref among them 4 is the wifi code appointed for the France game.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Billy TellB Offline
    Billy TellB Offline
    Billy Tell
    wrote on last edited by
    #459

    We have avoided carley as main ref vs Ireland πŸ™‚

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • S Offline
    S Offline
    SBW1
    replied to Mr Fish on last edited by
    #460

    @Mr-Fish Is Blackadder ok heard he sustained an injury?

    A 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • A Offline
    A Offline
    African Monkey
    replied to SBW1 on last edited by
    #461

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Mr-Fish Is Blackadder ok heard he sustained an injury?

    No never!

    1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • No QuarterN Online
    No QuarterN Online
    No Quarter
    wrote on last edited by
    #462

    I think some of the Razor defenders are in for a bit of a shock selection wise. I don't think Cane and TJP are going to carry tackle bags, and I don't think Sititi is their starting 6. If they can, I think they'll have 6. Blackadder 7. Cane and 8. Ardie, with TJP at 9 in their top side against the big three, for their "experience".

    MN5M Chris B.C M 3 Replies Last reply
    1
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #463

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I think some of the Razor defenders are in for a bit of a shock selection wise. I don't think Cane and TJP are going to carry tackle bags, and I don't think Sititi is their starting 6. If they can, I think they'll have 6. Blackadder 7. Cane and 8. Ardie, with TJP at 9 in their top side against the big three, for their "experience".

    One is broken and the other two past their best.

    Thank goodness for all the experience though !

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • nostrildamusN Offline
    nostrildamusN Offline
    nostrildamus Banned
    wrote on last edited by nostrildamus
    #464

    They better not give Niggles tacklebags to carry as that sounds far too dangerous.

    1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to No Quarter on last edited by Chris B.
    #465

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I think some of the Razor defenders are in for a bit of a shock selection wise. I don't think Cane and TJP are going to carry tackle bags, and I don't think Sititi is their starting 6. If they can, I think they'll have 6. Blackadder 7. Cane and 8. Ardie, with TJP at 9 in their top side against the big three, for their "experience".

    I won't be too shocked at that. I expect there will be some rotation for the big three matches, but for England...

    I'll be amazed if Ardie isn't playing 8;

    I'll be more surprised if Sam Cane isn't playing 7;

    I think it will be Sititi and Ratima at 6 and 9, but Blackadder and Perenara on the bench wouldn't surprise me in the least - especially if Roigard is a bit sketchy vs Japan.

    MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #466

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I think some of the Razor defenders are in for a bit of a shock selection wise. I don't think Cane and TJP are going to carry tackle bags, and I don't think Sititi is their starting 6. If they can, I think they'll have 6. Blackadder 7. Cane and 8. Ardie, with TJP at 9 in their top side against the big three, for their "experience".

    I won't be too shocked at that. I expect there will be some rotation for the big three matches, but for England...

    I'll be amazed if Ardie isn't playing 8;

    I'll be more surprised if Sam Cane isn't playing 7;

    I think it will be Sititi and Ratima at 6 and 9, but Blackadder and Perenara on the bench wouldn't surprise me in the least - especially if Roigard is a bit sketchy vs Japan.

    He’s pretty much the next All Black legend of his era according to the fern so this is doubtful in the extreme.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Mr Fish
    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #467

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks EOYT:

    I think some of the Razor defenders are in for a bit of a shock selection wise. I don't think Cane and TJP are going to carry tackle bags, and I don't think Sititi is their starting 6. If they can, I think they'll have 6. Blackadder 7. Cane and 8. Ardie, with TJP at 9 in their top side against the big three, for their "experience".

    Cane will absolutely start against England, Ireland and France.

    Perenara will probably be on the bench for most of those games, as will Blackadder (and he'll very likely get a start in one of them).

    But Sititi, Cane, Savea, Ratima, McKenzie is the spine of the top team now.

    B Chris B.C 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • B Offline
    B Offline
    brodean
    replied to Mr Fish on last edited by
    #468

    @Mr-Fish

    That's not what spine usually means in rugby.

    M 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Mr Fish
    replied to brodean on last edited by
    #469

    @brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Mr-Fish

    That's not what spine usually means in rugby.

    I chucked in a few extra loosies because six is the one being debated and then couldn't be arsed using a better word.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to Mr Fish on last edited by
    #470

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

    But Sititi, Cane, Savea, Ratima, McKenzie is the spine of the top team now.

    Certainly what I'd expect vs England- but, I'm only an interested spectator.

    I don't really get why people think the coaches are out to scupper us.

    They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!

    nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • nzzpN Offline
    nzzpN Offline
    nzzp
    replied to Chris B. on last edited by nzzp
    #471

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

    They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!

    Remember when Foster picked ScoBa at 6 vs England in the QF in 19 and benched Sam? And then didn't attack the english lineout? Yeah, I remember that πŸ™‚ 3D chess, or coaches just playing hunches and going wrong.

    Edit: Hansen and semi. As you were.

    Victor MeldrewV LatsToTheMaxL 2 Replies Last reply
    4
  • Victor MeldrewV Online
    Victor MeldrewV Online
    Victor Meldrew
    replied to nzzp on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #472

    @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

    They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!

    Remember when Foster picked ScoBa at 6 vs England in the QF in 19 and benched Sam? And then didn't attack the english lineout? Yeah, I remember that πŸ™‚ 3D chess, or coaches just playing hunches and going wrong.

    I thought that was Hansen.

    Still makes me bloody angry.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • S Offline
    S Offline
    SBW1
    wrote on last edited by
    #473

    Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.

    Victor MeldrewV nzzpN 2 Replies Last reply
    0

All Blacks EOYT
Sports Talk
allblacks
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.