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If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?

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    On that basis I would think anyone who is has played a part of beating a top 5 team in the last 5 years should be under consideration.

    That includes:

    Finlay Christie
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Akira Ioane
    Quinn Tupaea
    Brayden Ennor
    George Bower

    Christie was hard done by. We won those games against England then he was dropped. His win rate against SA/Ireland/France/England is 75%

    Bower I grant has stiff competition due to our deep prop depth.

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    @brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @kpkanz

    On that basis I would think anyone who is has played a part of beating a top 5 team in the last 5 years should be under consideration.

    That includes:

    Finlay Christie
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Akira Ioane
    Quinn Tupaea
    Brayden Ennor
    George Bower

    Christie was hard done by.

    Only if you're blind.

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    win rate

    WTAF. The only times "win rate" for a player is a thing - is individual sports.

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    Knowing how to win and having the winning mindset is important.

    I think half the problem for the AB's this year is even the Crusaders who are in there have come from the losing mindset.

    But you can't win games with sub standard halfbacks. He's a proven winner at test level.

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    @antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @kpkanz

    On that basis I would think anyone who is has played a part of beating a top 5 team in the last 5 years should be under consideration.

    That includes:

    Finlay Christie
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Akira Ioane
    Quinn Tupaea
    Brayden Ennor
    George Bower

    Christie was hard done by.

    Only if you're blind.

    People are allowed an opinion, your posts can seem quite aggro lately.

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    @brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    Knowing how to win and having the winning mindset is important.

    It can be important. I'd argue playing consistnetly in a top tier competition is more important than winning. The quality of Super dropped significantly and the ABs started to struggle - as did Aus (and SA before they broke away and started picking overseas players). It matters.

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    @brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    He's a proven winner at test level.

    He started once in those games against South Africa, Ireland, England and France. AndI I think his win rate is not 75% it's 63%.

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    @nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @kpkanz

    On that basis I would think anyone who is has played a part of beating a top 5 team in the last 5 years should be under consideration.

    That includes:

    Finlay Christie
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Akira Ioane
    Quinn Tupaea
    Brayden Ennor
    George Bower

    Christie was hard done by.

    Only if you're blind.

    People are allowed an opinion, your posts can seem quite aggro lately.

    If there are two ways to read my posts and your first thought is aggressive, I suggest the alternative. Perhaps reflect on that.

    To the point: Plenty of people have raised concerns with Christie, including Blues supporters, with detailed criticisms of his play. An argument that he should be still in the All Blacks at the expense of one of the three Rs available to us because a team he was in won is deluded. Or is that too harsh?

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    @antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @nostrildamus said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @antipodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @brodean said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @kpkanz

    On that basis I would think anyone who is has played a part of beating a top 5 team in the last 5 years should be under consideration.

    That includes:

    Finlay Christie
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Akira Ioane
    Quinn Tupaea
    Brayden Ennor
    George Bower

    Christie was hard done by.

    Only if you're blind.

    People are allowed an opinion, your posts can seem quite aggro lately.

    If there are two ways to read my posts and your first thought is aggressive, I suggest the alternative. Perhaps reflect on that.

    To the point: Plenty of people have raised concerns with Christie, including Blues supporters, with detailed criticisms of his play. An argument that he should be still in the All Blacks at the expense of one of the three Rs available to us because a team he was in won is deluded. Or is that too harsh?

    Your reasoning on him is fine. I don't rank Christie in the top 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 halfbacks, he's a useful stopgap but he is going to make a huge mistake every game or two and he isn't likely to turn a game around.

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    @Chris-B said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:

    @Frank Be confident and say it yourself if that's what you believe! 🙂

    Havili - if they take five midfielders he'll be the fifth.

    Christie - probably not.

    Cane - for the past month it has looked an awful lot like they think he's still the best openside in New Zealand. What have you seen the makes you think they think someone else is better?

    TJ - I wouldn't b surprised.

    @Frank You bewdy - 100 percent on another test! 🙂

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