All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
The ABs won, and probably would have won without those couple of lapses by the Wallabies, however I think this AB team is papering over cracks, and running out of glue.
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Your scrum got slapped around by a guy on one leg. I think perhaps you're missing a big grunter with technical nous in your second row.
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I thought - besides Sititi's tearing runs - your backrow got outplayed. Savea did a couple of nice things but you surely can't keep Cane on.
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Your defensive lineout is good. Attacking lineout generally OK but if the 10th ranked team is picking you off, the top 6N sides are going to be licking their lips.
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This helter-skelter bullshit in general play isn't going to cut it against top opponents with patience and cohesion. There aren't many guys in the starting 8 who are rolling up their sleeves and smashing blokes TBH. I don't think the ABs were dominant in contact as many times as the scoreline might otherwise suggest.
I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.
EDG seemed far from his best. I wonder if his neck injury is still impeding him.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.
They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.
LJ much more of an impact tackler.
lead dominate tackling with 3 for both side according to rugbypass
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.
They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.
LJ much more of an impact tackler.
From memory he was one of the leaders in Super rugby.
I think his best spot at International level is at 7. He could be the option for the 7 shirt for the EOYT.
I don’t know what Paps has done but he’s clearly out in the cold.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
I don’t know what Paps has done
Tubby Ryan finally clicked he's from the Blues too ...
I find it quite difficult to get a guage on Paps because for some reason I have difficulty seeing him in games. It even happens when I make an effort to look out for him. He needs a big bushy beard or something so he stands out.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
We look like we can score at will. But our D is soft and and scrum is ineffective.
Yeah what has happened to our scrum???
Poor refereeing. Tupou can't take a hit, folds like a bitch and as a result EdG overextends. Tupou should be penalised off the park for intentionally collapsing.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Cane has the worst dummy pass in international rugby.
Worse than Ardie's stupid fake pass?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Cane has the worst dummy pass in international rugby.
Worse than Ardie's stupid fake pass?
Ardie's worked once, didn't it?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
why is Cane still there?
Because Sititi can't do it all by himself.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
A proper 9 qnd 10
TJ and Beaudy were everything we feared in this game. Especially TJ - absolute dogshit.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Tosi is a monster, fuck he's good
Sititi, Tosi, Hotham, Darry, Ratima, Proctor didn’t fluff their lines when given their chances.
And our experienced guys stank the place up.
Savea and SB and Taylor (good all year) were ok tonight.
Savea was very average. But I was more talking about TJ, cane, and BB.
Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).
LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).
LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.
19 tackles. https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-australia-bledisloe-cup-ii/
I wouldn't have chosen him to start at 8 but he wasn't terrible. -
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Cane missed at least one tackle for failing to cover the channel from a lineout. So we are lacking speed on defence. The Wallabies seemed to run through us far too easily, something the Boks had a harder time doing generally
I think he alluded to it in the post match chat with Joey Wheeler that he's too slow.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).
LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.
19 tackles. https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-australia-bledisloe-cup-ii/
I wouldn't have chosen him to start at 8 but he wasn't terrible.Does that soft piece of shit on the try line where McReight went over him count in the 19?
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Ardie had a great game. Defensively, one of the best. Watch who was getting the line speed and making the most tackles when the Aussies were attacking in the first half.
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A few thoughts from the game:
Would it be worth switching the prop combinations up? The reserves look good, so maybe Lomax+Williams to start and De Groot+Tosi to finish (or the other way around) - just to balance the tight 5 ball running out a bit better.
Vaai was still good, but a little untidier than his last couple of games. Scott Barrett isn't a good captain, but played a bit better this week. Pat T was good off the bench, I still hope (but question) we'll see that consistently against the bigger packs.
Of the other tight forwards, congrats to Sam Cane on 100, try to stick to the fatties and avoid those mismatches mate.Loosies.
Sititi is a man possessed out there at times, the workrate is very impressive and what a relief to have a ball runner in the pack again. Still a few mistakes, and I'm pretty sure he was the lifter in the lineouts we cocked up, but he can play and well and truly showed up the others. Cane - slow, defensive errors and penalties. Ardie is the real 'busy but ineffective' guy. It's really hard to not just think 'chuck all the young guys in' when you watch that game. I think what Sititi is doing shows we are way too conservative - if you gave someone like Aumua 60 minutes starting instead of 15 off the bench I think you'd start to see his super form reflected too.The backs.
Well Tj was poor. I was wanting to be all nice and give him his due as a really good defensive halfback and support runner, but if that's experience then no thanks.
Whoever mentioned end-of-QF broken Sexton as a BB comparison is bang on the money. Just jogs and shovels it on, doesn't put anyone in a gap, doesn't take the line on, doesn't look like he has any idea how to beat the defence. The instant McKenzie came on the backs looked far more dangerous.
ALB was really good, can pass. Rieko... I think I've had enough of now - can't seem to make pretty standard passes.
Clarke really good, but another dumb card? At first borderline accidental, but picking it up and pretending that you can play on?
Reece a better game, but still not my preference.
Jordan so much better than BB. Yes he still has the blinkers on and fuck do I yell at the screen when he looks to kick every single fucking time he makes a break, but he is so far ahead of the other options it's not funny.
