Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
Conway's decline is depressing.
He was so good for so long
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
Conway's decline is depressing.
Is it what ? That 200 on debut seems a lifetime ago. I’m genuinely gutted for him.
The average has dipped under 40 now. How many more chances does he get ? Is Will Young worth a shot ? ( and he’s been far from convincing either )
Conway and Ravindra have both scored a big double ton each to pad the average and perhaps look better than they are. At least Daryl Mitchell is far more consistent.
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
Challenge with a lot of these guys (and the White Ferns also) is that we drop them and replace them with... umm... err.....
The expectations might need adjusting too.
Petering out to mid 30s seems to be the Black Caps way. I hope like hell Mitch’s son maintains his amazing form. He’s still fucken third in the world currently ! Having him and KW in the same team is pretty damn unbelievable really and he’s saved some blushes on a few occasions.
Jury still very much out on Ravindra too.
The cupboard isn’t completely bare. A player as decent as Henry Nicholls can’t even make the squad currently.
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
The cupboard isn’t completely bare. A player as decent as Henry Nicholls can’t even make the squad currently.
The first sentence was encouraging, the second sentence a fraction less so
Yeah but I think the point I’m ( badly
) making is Nicholls is in that sort of McMillan/Astle/Styris bracket……and those guys were all stalwarts of their era.Actually Styris only played 29 tests…..but you get my point ( or not ! )
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Kane stat watch……
He needs 31 runs to beat the Pakistani spudhead who smashed us out of the 92 World Cup ( actually I shouldn’t resort to fat shaming, Inzy was a fantastic player )
33 runs will see him go past another Pakistani great and arguably their best batsman ever in Javed Miandad.
…..and then shit gets pretty interesting cos next up just 70 runs away is another member of the ‘fab four’ in Virat Kohli who just finished a test against Bangladesh and scored fuck all.
Kohli is the best all formats batsman, I’ll freely admit that but his ( relative ) test decline is noticable.
Joe Root will top the list when their careers are over and he’s a genuine chance to beat Tendulkars record but even then despite being a modern legend there will always be that nagging “England play so much more than anyone else” feeling to it…..
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
That's a tough total. I just don't see us having the application or the technique to get over the line
I’m not allowed to make predictions on here but all I’ll say is I hope you’re wrong.
Hope is the killer
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@Damo said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
I think we are a chance.
All it will take is either one big innings of 120+ and a few chip ins; or 3-4 guys to get 50's.
We have enough batting for either eventuality.
We are one step away from a total collapse though
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
We are one step away from a total collapse though
Shouldn't be. We have Ravindra, Mitchell, Blundell, Phillips and Santner to come. One or two of them are capable of getting some runs. All but Santner got runs in the first innings.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
Kane stat watch……
He needs 31 runs to beat the Pakistani spudhead who smashed us out of the 92 World Cup ( actually I shouldn’t resort to fat shaming, Inzy was a fantastic player )
33 runs will see him go past another Pakistani great and arguably their best batsman ever in Javed Miandad.
…..and then shit gets pretty interesting cos next up just 70 runs away is another member of the ‘fab four’ in Virat Kohli who just finished a test against Bangladesh and scored fuck all.
Kohli is the best all formats batsman, I’ll freely admit that but his ( relative ) test decline is noticable.
Joe Root will top the list when their careers are over and he’s a genuine chance to beat Tendulkars record but even then despite being a modern legend there will always be that nagging “England play so much more than anyone else” feeling to it…..
I think Kane's test career stands up very well to Kohli's. Same number of runs but less innings. Kohli has to play on turning pitches in India but Williamson has to to play on pitches that often start off indistinguishable from the outfield.
Kohli certainly has the advantage in ODI's and T20's but not in tests.
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@Damo said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
We are one step away from a total collapse though
Shouldn't be. We have Ravindra, Mitchell, Blundell, Phillips and Santner to come. One or two of them are capable of getting some runs. All but Santner got runs in the first innings.
Did you not watch the first innings?
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
@Damo said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:
We are one step away from a total collapse though
Shouldn't be. We have Ravindra, Mitchell, Blundell, Phillips and Santner to come. One or two of them are capable of getting some runs. All but Santner got runs in the first innings.
Did you not watch the first innings?
Not the collapse no. But I did read the scoreboard and saw we got 340 - top innings of the match and 65 more than we need.
