How good are the Boks?
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@W32 said in How good are the Boks?:
@stodders said in How good are the Boks?:
Bok fans on here…do you think the Boks are 15-20 points better than the current ABs? Boks didn’t play perfectly, but I don’t think they were allowed to. They had to earn their wins.
I ask because there are a lot of Bok posters on X saying they think the Boks would have walloped the ABs in both games if passes had stuck. Is this the true Bok fan view, or just the view of the few?
Stupid thing for X fans to say. The games have been close. woulda coulda shoulda
TBH this is an outstanding South African side and I am surprised we got so close on both occasions. Probably strongest SA side I've seen.
Our subbings were poor and we screwed up our wing selections.
Super proud of Williams Lomax Vaai and Sititi.
Ratima/ Roigard combo is going to be potent.
We need to commit to Proctor and Love -
Oh we lacked leadership which aided SA
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Hang on, commit to Love? Can we see him play for the ABs first?
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@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
Hang on, commit to Love? Can we see him play for the ABs first?
There are a bunch of guys I'd like to see given a real opportunity, not just a few minutes of garbage time with the scrubs. He is one of them. We can't build an improved team if we don't play some of these guys and see if they are up to it
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@booboo said in How good are the Boks?:
Let's pose this question again.
Any change in your opinion after this week?
Yeah, not the greatest bok team ever. But the big caveat is that rassie is really changing a lot every game, and the Tonyball plan hasn't really panned out. I actually prefer what Rassie is doing (experimenting with players, giving newbies a chance) rather than playing the strongest team every game ala the AB's. Its a jump start on the future.
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how great is this Boks team? There is a spiky pineapple riding on the answer.
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@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
how great is this Boks team? There is a spiky pineapple riding on the answer.
Should have chosen a durian.I'm beginning to regret that moment of lunacy.
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@W32 said in How good are the Boks?:
@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
how great is this Boks team? There is a spiky pineapple riding on the answer.
Should have chosen a durian.I'm beginning to regret that moment of lunacy.
here's hoping for you the Boks have practised a reliable rearguard action. Or perhaps they can't be arsed.
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@W32 said in How good are the Boks?:
@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
how great is this Boks team? There is a spiky pineapple riding on the answer.
Should have chosen a durian.I'm beginning to regret that moment of lunacy.
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@W32 said in How good are the Boks?:
@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
how great is this Boks team? There is a spiky pineapple riding on the answer.
Should have chosen a durian.I'm beginning to regret that moment of lunacy.
you and your a posterior -ay ay ay! - logic...
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@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
how great is this Boks team? There is
aspiky pineapple riding riding on the answer.
Should have chosen adurianjackfruit.Fixed
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@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
@W32 said in How good are the Boks?:
@nostrildamus said in How good are the Boks?:
how great is this Boks team? There is a spiky pineapple riding on the answer.
Should have chosen a durian.I'm beginning to regret that moment of lunacy.
you and your a posterior -ay ay ay! - logic...
Too soon to back up now @W32 - have some faith. You’ll be more than Doleful enough after the game if the boks stick it up their/your ring.
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Pretty good. We may never really know as Rassie keeps playing around with his squad and the fact that they have a seemingly endless season may be the source of their injury list.
In 18-24 months, they will start to retire some players so we will see if they are good enough to absorb those losses of personnel.
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@DaGrubster said in How good are the Boks?:
Pretty good. We may never really know as Rassie keeps playing around with his squad and the fact that they have a seemingly endless season may be the source of their injury list.
In 18-24 months, they will start to retire some players so we will see if they are good enough to absorb those losses of personnel.
He is working hard to build depth for the future, and for the most part they keep winning
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@canefan said in How good are the Boks?:
@DaGrubster said in How good are the Boks?:
Pretty good. We may never really know as Rassie keeps playing around with his squad and the fact that they have a seemingly endless season may be the source of their injury list.
In 18-24 months, they will start to retire some players so we will see if they are good enough to absorb those losses of personnel.
He is working hard to build depth for the future, and for the most part they keep winning
Yeah, he’s spending his capital wisely. Now when he’s got lots of it and the old dogs are around to transfer knowledge and put the team in with a shout of winning most games.
One reason I reckon Rassie is such a good coach for the boks they’re his team in every important sense. He’s their second biggest, most astute fan behind your correspondent. He ‘s not that far removed from being a vital player for the boks and he had a huge role in the development of lots of his players, many from before they were pros/stars. Most of all, he’s shaped this team in his own image for six years.
He knows exactly what the klippies and coke Jarpies in the stands expect and will tolerate. Because it’s exactly what he feels. He also has an innate appreciation of what his team wants and needs, what selections his boys will welcome or grudgingly accept and which will lead to pockets of players grumbling in hallways.
That’s why he’s backing Manie. It tells his team that if they’re in the squad he trusts them even if they have a bad day at the office. Even if there is a wunderkid sitting on the sidelines. Because who knows when you need your fourth string flyhalf to drop his pole, pull on an ill fitting jumper and slug a wobbly old kick to ice a(nother) RWC?
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@Smuts said in How good are the Boks?:
@canefan said in How good are the Boks?:
@DaGrubster said in How good are the Boks?:
Pretty good. We may never really know as Rassie keeps playing around with his squad and the fact that they have a seemingly endless season may be the source of their injury list.
In 18-24 months, they will start to retire some players so we will see if they are good enough to absorb those losses of personnel.
He is working hard to build depth for the future, and for the most part they keep winning
That’s why he’s backing Manie. It tells his team that if they’re in the squad he trusts them even if they have a bad day at the office. Even if there is a wunderkid sitting on the sidelines. Because who knows when you need your fourth string flyhalf to drop his pole, pull on an ill fitting jumper and slug a wobbly old kick to ice a(nother) RWC?
It's a really good decision. Starkly contrasts with the way we've been guilty of destroying players' confidence fairly regularly.
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The boks are the best
maybe two main reasons
they go deep in the forwards . . . they can put a better forward pack (all 14 of them that is) on the field than any one else
second reason . . . they've tuned their style of play to the rugby rule book beautifully
