All Blacks vs Wallabies I
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Probably
- but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.Oh come on, Aumua is hardly a newbie haha. Sititi and Tosi are injury enforced and Darry wasn't even used last week.
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Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Beaudy straight back in to fullback.
Dont really get it myself.
Id love him to prove me wrong but his goose looked cooked a long time ago.
I wonder if Love would have started if he was available.
Looks and sounds like it may have been on the bench in the 23 jersey(which Reece now has). If not, I know the idea was a game next weekend in Wellington if all went well this weekend coming.
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@African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.
The others are all playing in this game.
Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout!
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@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no foolThe two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
Joe Schmitt is no foolThe two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.
especially after the northern hemisphere had a real crack at them after that last loss as well
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.
The others are all playing in this game.
Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout!
Doesn't make Aumua a newbie. He's been in the environment for years and what comes off the bench these days is just as important as the guys starting. Yes, the others are playing this game, more due to being injury enforced than anything else, and as we saw against the boks, the may not even get used.
Well yeah, not saying pick those guys for one second, but some guys could be moved on.
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@African-Monkey Lets agree that Aumua isn't an experienced test player.
There's still four guys who've debuted this year in the 23. That seems like enough to me.
Hansen spent years telling us how valuable experience is - and was very successful with that mantra. He failed at the end when he went away from it at RWC2019. I tend to agree with him
I don't think there's any great need to rush guys like Procter, Finau, Hotham and especially Bell into the team.
If we win this one, as reprobate says, maybe ease two or three of them into the return fixture.
The main thing IMO is to win!
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Form
in SRseems totally irrelevant now.Fixed it. A lot of these guys have been crap for ABs, but the same shit of selecting experience rather than a bit more on form.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.
Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.
Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.
At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.
Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.
Razor is Foster-lite
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Do we think Sam Cane gets his 99th on Saturday, 100th the following week and then misses EOYT?
Reckon they'll stick with him and look for new 7 the next couple of years. Dunno who though.
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My 2c.
Happy with XV.
Would rather have:
Hotham at 21
Paps at 20I think there was perhaps an opportunity for an extra forward by dropping Reece.
Have high hopes for Tosi.
Williams, Aumua, Tosi could be a fair replacement front row.
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I like the team Schmidt has chosen. It's close to our strongest so far.
I don't think we will win but I wouldn't underestimate this team either. They are solid at set piece, a bit limited around the ground but they will give a good account of themselves.
I'll tip the ABs by 15 but it might be close at HT and I'd look at the odds of a Wallabies/All Blacks HT/FT double if you are that way inclined.
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