All Blacks vs Wallabies I
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He's also not helping us getting over the line.
No point in having experience if it isn't used appropriately.
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Ofa had an excellent season in the scrum for the Blues and I don't believe he was bested this year at test level either.
Tosi gained parity with Ofa in the Blues v Hurricanes game so I think he's a pretty strong scrummager. Strong enough under the current laws which mean less scrum resets.
Tosi could be a real weapon for us off the bench. He's probably the best close in tight five carrier in the squad and he can help set a platform for the others. He's also a good lifter and a good mauler.
It could be a real boost for us having someone of Williams size and Tosi's size for the duration of 80 minutes.
Don't forget he's still developing in that area aswell. He was playing 8 a few years ago and he's come a long way already so he could be a real weapon for the ABs if he can start dominating at scrum time.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.
That is Why Hotham is there as he runs close in around the ruck quite often.
I'd really like to see them develop our halfbacks against the Wallabies. E.G. Ratima starting with Hotham on the bench. TJP is leaving, there is no value in continuing to give him gametime at this stage given he's no Aaron Smith.
Yeah I agree maybe we see that happen this game.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.
That is Why Hotham is there as he runs close in around the ruck quite often.
I'd really like to see them develop our halfbacks against the Wallabies. E.G. Ratima starting with Hotham on the bench. TJP is leaving, there is no value in continuing to give him gametime at this stage given he's no Aaron Smith.
Personally thought TJP was given every chance to show leadership and calmness in his game when asked to close out in South Africa, he didn't. If there was ever a time to send a message (whether short or longer term) , the coaching team could replace him based on that for Australia and not have any blow back.
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
I'd like to see Tosi come on to the bench for the Wallabies too.
His ball running on the weekend was impressive, even accounting for it being two levels below.
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I don't mind if it's Fakatava or Hotham against the Wallabies but there is zero point in continuing with TJ at this stage as others have mentioned.
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Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.
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@Canes4life whos the 6 though?
I would love to see it but two things that jump out are i think its pretty clear the coaches dont see savea as a 7 option...but also sititi did well at 6 i think....room to improve but good....so better to keep developing there?
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Canes4lifereplied to Kiwiwomble on 17 Sept 2024, 03:05 last edited by Canes4life 17 Sept 2024, 03:16
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Canes4life whos the 6 though?
I would love to see it but two things that jump out are i think its pretty clear the coaches dont see savea as a 7 option...but also sititi did well at 6 i think....room to improve but good....so better to keep developing there?
Marshall would still keep Blackadder at 6.
I think we can get away with that loose trio against the Wallabies but not sure if it would work against a bigger pack.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.
Probably would make more sense to play Sititi at 7.
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nostrildamusreplied to pakman on 17 Sept 2024, 11:05 last edited by nostrildamus 17 Sept 2024, 11:06
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.
Probably would make more sense to play Sititi at 7.
why? has he played there? Seems unfair to me to keep moving a young player around.
Edit: oh, maybe that was just sarcasm. Ok.
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Ardie isn’t much off a stopper around the fringes anymore. More a scragger!
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Unfortunately I have an aversion to anything that comes out of Justin Marshall's mouth.
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Heard some chat that Hotham is in the 23
Which would explain why he wasn't released for Ta$man
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Heard some chat that Hotham is in the 23
Which would explain why he wasn't released for Ta$man
At this point, it is probably more worthwhile to give him a run off the bench rather than TJP who is not playing well and is leaving
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not a bad saturday. ABs in to Lions on to NRL semi. Little bit of overlap though which is a shitter.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
not a bad saturday. ABs in to Lions on to NRL semi. Little bit of overlap though which is a shitter.
I'm going to the Bled.
3:45pm kick-off so I guess the game will be done by 6pm.
Occurred to me that this works fairly well with a train back from Homebush to Allianz for the 7:50pm kick-off there.
Would probably have an hour to kill in the pub next door in between.
Tempting!
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now THAT is a solid plan
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@mariner4life Lions are before the ABs.
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i thought the Bled was mid-arvo?
Lions are twilight?
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@mariner4life Wellington Lions are before Bleds
Brisbane Lions are after Bleds
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looooool the difference in level of interest between those two games couldn't be starker.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Heard some chat that Hotham is in the 23
Which would explain why he wasn't released for Ta$man
At this point, it is probably more worthwhile to give him a run off the bench rather than TJP who is not playing well and is leaving
Yeah, but the way things have been going the last few years with team selections, it will probably be Ratima that drops out, not TJP.
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@mariner4life yea, but not in NZ
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Canes4lifereplied to mariner4life on 18 Sept 2024, 01:09 last edited by Canes4life 18 Sept 2024, 01:10
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
looooool the difference in level of interest between those two games couldn't be starker.
Obviously, no one on here wants to watch the Brisbane Lions.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
looooool the difference in level of interest between those two games couldn't be starker.
Obviously, no one on here wants to watch the Brisbane Lions.
i reckon the TV audience for the AFL will be much bigger than the walk up crowd to an NPC game
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
looooool the difference in level of interest between those two games couldn't be starker.
Obviously, no one on here wants to watch the Brisbane Lions.
i reckon the TV audience for the AFL will be much bigger than the walk up crowd to an NPC game
i think the walk up growd for the AFL will be bigger than the entire audience of an NPC
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
looooool the difference in level of interest between those two games couldn't be starker.
Obviously, no one on here wants to watch the Brisbane Lions.
i reckon the TV audience for the AFL will be much bigger than the walk up crowd to an NPC game
i think the walk up growd for the AFL will be bigger than the entire audience of an NPC
Given there’s often more people playing than watching that shouldn’t be too tough
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No saucy action today? We must wait like the plebs? How will NZ Media do their match day squad stories?
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Have heard unconfirmed rumours on Love Rieko DMac and Hotham this week (2 with injuries) . But the silence from official sources is deafening.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
No saucy action today? We must wait like the plebs? How will NZ Media do their match day squad stories?
Yeah mate, I posted on the AB’s 2024 thread yesterday that Ruben Love is out 4-6 weeks with a quad injury. He had scans Monday and found out yesterday. Didn’t get any info on if anyone or who got called up though. I’m assuming no one did and Perofeta slides back in if fit.
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@ARHS said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Have heard unconfirmed rumours on Love Rieko DMac and Hotham this week (2 with injuries) . But the silence from official sources is deafening.
NRL is superior in generating interest in so many ways. AB fans are just left with speculation to chew on.So aside from Love, what is the other injury/rumour?
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@Unite said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@ARHS said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Have heard unconfirmed rumours on Love Rieko DMac and Hotham this week (2 with injuries) . But the silence from official sources is deafening.
NRL is superior in generating interest in so many ways. AB fans are just left with speculation to chew on.So aside from Love, what is the other injury/rumour?
If the other injury is DMac, then I'm worried their solution would be Beaudy at 10 and Jordan at 15.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Unite said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@ARHS said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Have heard unconfirmed rumours on Love Rieko DMac and Hotham this week (2 with injuries) . But the silence from official sources is deafening.
NRL is superior in generating interest in so many ways. AB fans are just left with speculation to chew on.So aside from Love, what is the other injury/rumour?
If the other injury is DMac, then I'm worried their solution would be Beaudy at 10 and Jordan at 15.
Same.
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Anyone heard if Bladder is on the fit list?
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Anyone heard if Bladder is on the fit list?
The eternal question…..
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Unite said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@ARHS said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Have heard unconfirmed rumours on Love Rieko DMac and Hotham this week (2 with injuries) . But the silence from official sources is deafening.
NRL is superior in generating interest in so many ways. AB fans are just left with speculation to chew on.So aside from Love, what is the other injury/rumour?
If the other injury is DMac, then I'm worried their solution would be Beaudy at 10 and Jordan at 15.
Would you prefer a Blues solution of Plummer at 10 and Stevie P between Caleb and Eel in back three?
Hell, bring in Christie as injury cover for Hotham and make it six.
Read them and weep, Rangi?
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Would you prefer a Blues solution of Plummer at 10
It's Beaudy at ten that's the blues solution. Out didn't work.
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@antipodean nah just a report that Rieko finished a training session as 'no contact'.
The French have since rubbished the Dmac 'about to go' rumour. -
The sauce will have been delivered by now. Why would anyone not want Fern to get a pre opening tasting?
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