All Blacks vs Wallabies I
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1 Ethan de Groot, didn't look matchfit
2 Codie Taylor, relatively quiet by his recent high standards
3 Tyrel Lomax, also quiet but good
4 Scott Barrett (captain), losing impact but industrious
5 Tupou Vaa’i, very good
6 Wallace Sititi, heroic, best loosie
7 Sam Cane, some good and bad, seemed slow on occasion, big hits and big misses
8 Ardie Savea, tried too hard at times, does he trust his loosies? Had issues with ball security-may have been targetted
9 Cortez Ratima, very good, sound decisions, has some speed and strength
10 Damian McKenzie, kicked conversions well, had speed, some shocking headless passing
11 Caleb Clarke, great except for yellow-card lapse
12 Jordie Barrett, mostly pretty good I felt
13 Rieko Ioane, pretty good overall, looked more of a winger than Reece when he was on the side of the paddock, I can't remember how many crap passes he had though
14 Sevu Reece, tried very hard, mostly ineffectual, lacks speed strength and deception at top level
15. Will Jordan looks far more dangerous than BB but also looked flakey at times and hesitant on defenceBench:
16 Asafo Aumua, not a great game, would have trouble keeping #2 hooker role
17 Tamaiti Williams, tried hard to get into game, I'd probably start with him, most mobile prop on field IMO
18 Pasilio Tosi, looked flustered, perhaps due to pace of game
19 Sam Darry, I didn't notice him come on?
20 Luke Jacobson, I didn't see him do much, seems to be a backup player rather than an impact player
21 TJ Perenara, best impact off bench, great kick, great tackling
22 Anton Lienert-Brown, loved the bench so much he went back and spent 10 more minutes there, didn't look very fast out there
23 Harry Plummer didn't get a chance to show his wares.Overall, the bench was bad or badly handled/selected. TJP the one guiding light.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.
His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.
They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.
If there was any selection pressure, yes.
But that’s not how it seems to be at all.
Aumua has gone down hill and seems a liability and handbrake from the bench where I would have thought he'd make an ideal impact player.
@Canes4life thoughts?
To me I feel like Ryan has him playing to a very tight structure. He doesn’t seem to be moving much from the ruck and often carries as first receiver. Yes this is part of his role but I’d like to see him have a bit of licence to roam wider where he can be devastating, and was devastating for the Canes earlier in the year.
He’s done things really well but he’s also been completely off the mark. I’m happy to be patient with him as the alternative is Bell and to me he isn’t ready yet physically. But yes, he definitely needs to be better.
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Conclusion: our bench is too slow or too easily overawed.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Real freezing cold take by @NTA about the last 20 mins
Saw the score. Based on that, if the Wallabies are a pack of retards, the ABs are a stupid version of Forrest Gump
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Real freezing cold take by @NTA about the last 20 mins
Saw the score. Based on that, if the Wallabies are a pack of retards, the ABs are a stupid version of Forrest Gump
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Haven't read the thread yet. Sititi captain?
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Leadership isn't working
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@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
'We found a way' he said 3 times.....
We should never have ever been in a position to lose that fucken test in the first place!
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Hate to say it but the way Oz played the second half points to good coaching by Schmidt, especially after their last thrashing. Somehow Schmidt brought his team back from that disaster, they smelled AB blood in the water in the second half and full of confidence almost pulled it off. And you don’t want to play an Aussie team full of confidence. Bled 2 is going to be very interesting, and the Oz will use our shocking record in Wellington as motivation
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Watched a few interviews this week in the buildup via the Allblacks media channels.
Highlights were Razor being asked about surfing with Joey Johns and Tamaiti Williams being asked about whether he gets poo on his hands changing nappies.
Ironically enough the only person with shite all over his hands is the head coach.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Watched a few interviews this week in the buildup via the Allblacks media channels.
Highlights were Razor being asked about surfing with Joey Johns and Tamaiti Williams being asked about whether he gets poo on his hands changing nappies.
Ironically enough the only person with shite all over his hands is the head coach.
Sums things up these days with our gutless media too afraid to lose their accreditations.
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@pjay said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Bled 2 is going to be very interesting, and the Oz will use our shocking record in Wellington as motivation
Lies.
Our modus operandi is to play one good game followed by utter shit.
have you been out drinking with Derpus?
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@pjay said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Bled 2 is going to be very interesting, and the Oz will use our shocking record in Wellington as motivation
Lies.
Our modus operandi is to play one good game followed by utter shit.
Contrasting styles, up against a team that starts in top gear and finishes in reverse.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
'We found a way' he said 3 times.....
We should never have ever been in a position to lose that fucken test in the first place!
Up 28-7 after 25 minutes. Scrape home by 3 points 31-28.
I dont know what to make of it. Mainly because I can’t recall a team that looks really good for the first half and then get worse, as the game progresses, like we do.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Another card
Clarke you moron
That was really dumb. ALB was called offside but was given a YC for 3 quick team penalties including the TW no-arms tackle.
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@pjay said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Bled 2 is going to be very interesting, and the Oz will use our shocking record in Wellington as motivation
Lies.
Our modus operandi is to play one good game followed by utter shit.
You should be full of confidence in that case, because you didn't play well tonight.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
See also Will Jordan on this.
Feel like he is overrated.
Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
Love would be a better option at 15.
Jordan is a 14 or nothing.While your point on his position may have merit I think you are harsh on Jordan there. He has scored tries from nothing that basically no other Allblack has been doing since “PlayStation Beaudy”.
Jordan’s tries against Ireland in the cake tin, the chip and chase against Wales and USA, the semi final try against Argentina display a skill nobody else in the squad has shown us. The only other time an Allblack has created a “hold my beer” moment in recent memory was Roigard against the Boks in Twickenham.
And remind me, what position was he playing when he scored those tries?
