Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@KiwiMurph howzit and thanks for the welcome. been here a long time actually just had to re-register at some stage and then actually comment a bit - always enjoyed this forum. I agree with your comment - will be great to see those 9s go at it!
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So for three games in a row our bench hasnt added value.
Who goes onto the bench to improve that?
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Here’s a thought
Darry and Vaa’i in the engine room
Scooter, Cane/Paps, SaveaBlackadder and Cane/Paps on the pine
Possibly Finau tooLineout was fine. Scooter stays where he is.
Blackadder was more than fine. So he'll start again.One of Cane or Paps will be on the bench.
Savea needs a much better performance or very serious questions will be asked.
Yeah, I'd go with a 6-2 bench. Jacobson (or Savea) to come on with 20 to go.Most importantly, we are still going to play our game plan because we have the skilful players to play at pace. We're not the international team that have lost our only world-class player to the Jacksonville Jaguars practice squad.
And yet we both lost to SA
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@MiketheSnow The All Blacks lost their last two games to SA by a combined total of five points or Wayne Barnes not seeing a dropped scrum bind and the TMO missing a Bongi knock on.
Wales lost their last two games to South Africa by a combined total of 64 points and I had to get out a calculator to do the Maths.
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@Boston-Boy said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Here’s a crazy idea, how would Beaudy go at 13 next to Jordie Barret? There would be chemistry, a lack of muscle perhaps but would it be made up with finesse? Then you could have Will Jordan at the back.
BB at 13 Fuck no that is bat shit crazy.
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@Chris said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chris I remember suggesting that the coaches try BB at 13 back in 2016, but it's far too late in his career to make the move to midfield.
yeah 8 years to late for that.
You would have thought the logical time would have been when the cartel were toying with the double pivot. Why not have dual playmakers at 10 and 12 (DC played at 12 a few times early in his career), rather than 10 and 15? Lots of teams have done it. Giteau at 12 springs to mind (Nonu loved that in 2015...)
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chris said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chris I remember suggesting that the coaches try BB at 13 back in 2016, but it's far too late in his career to make the move to midfield.
yeah 8 years to late for that.
You would have thought the logical time would have been when the cartel were toying with the double pivot. Why not have dual playmakers are 10 and 12 (DC played at 12 a few times early in his career), rather than 10 and 15? Lots of teams have done it. Giteau at 12 springs to mind (Nonu loved that in 2015...)
you are probably right there if you wanted to try that out..
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Sadly, we never got to see Carl Hayman at 8 or Richie McCaw try his hand at reserve Hooker after the 2015 World Cup which were two of the more "interesting" suggestions I've seen on the Fern.
I must have missed that suggestion
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Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
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@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow The All Blacks lost their last two games to SA by a combined total of five points or Wayne Barnes not seeing a dropped scrum bind and the TMO missing a Bongi knock on.
Wales lost their last two games to South Africa by a combined total of 64 points and I had to get out a calculator to do the Maths.
So why make a personal comparison in the first place?
You'd have been better placed to compare yourselves with Ireland and work out how you can turn a narrow deficit into a win a week later
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Ratima-Proctor-Love yeah, yeah, yeah
Kick it long in your own half yeah yeah yeah
Don't swear at the ref yeah yeah yeah
Dont kick it out on the full yeah yeah yeah
You know it can't be badrepeat
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Another thought
The current ABs are like the Norwegian athlete Jakob Ingebrigtsen
When they can control the pace, tempo and tactics they lead from the get go and build up a lead and momentum which more often than not leads to victory
When they can't do that and have to either defend a lead or come from behind they often lose
By kicking the ball away so badly they put themselves in scenario 2
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@MiketheSnow Not sure I agree with that. I think we generally lack control right now. As well as we played in that first 60, we still made errors in execution of our kicking game in particular that prevented us from getting out of sight. And the bench is our achilles heel, something that we prided as a strength before
