Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
There are some players who have stood up. Lomax, Taylor, Williams, Va’ai, Cane, Sititi. Ratima was v good too.
Interestingly all but 2 are younger players. I think we need new blood.
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@MiketheSnow Boks are on top right now. But Rassie knows he has some major surgery to do to SA in next 2 years. This year was all about cementing their legacy with this group.
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Don’t lose your shit guys. ABs we’re better team today and if they taken opportunities would have won by 10. Farking annoying grasping defeat out of mouth of victory, but I’d rather be Razor than Rassie looking at that.
NOT A CHANCE
Rassie is grinning like a Cheshire Cat
So you're saying he is fat and about to vanish?
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@nostrildamus TJP needs to go. His work at the back of the ruck was terrible. His passing and kicking are issues. His mouthing of this test was unforgivable.
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@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow Boks are on top right now. But Rassie knows he has some major surgery to do to SA in next 2 years. This year was all about cementing their legacy with this group.
The young kids who've been playing in the URC the past two seasons are ready to go
I don't envisage the big drop off in performances that others are anticipating / expecting / hoping for
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Don’t lose your shit guys. ABs we’re better team today and if they taken opportunities would have won by 10. Farking annoying grasping defeat out of mouth of victory, but I’d rather be Razor than Rassie looking at that.
NOT A CHANCE
Rassie is grinning like a Cheshire Cat
So you're saying he is fat and about to vanish?
Well played
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Another pleasing performance by the forwards. Let down by shit kicking by the backs and a porous midfield defence. Reece needs to be dropped for the Marx try. It would have been OK had he been steamrolled, but that was terrible. Caleb Clarke missing big time
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There isn’t much between the teams. Experience probably the telling factor.
Rassie has worked with this team and brought in fresh blood to a settled style for 7 years now. If Robertson is trying to embed his ethos, he is well behind Rassie and things take time.
Not sure if many remember what the ABs were like in 2004 when Henry, Hansen and Smith took over. They weren’t the great team they became. In fact, they were quite average.
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@MiketheSnow let’s see. There is a lot of experience in the old dogs. That only comes with time.
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@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Not sure if many remember what the ABs were like in 2004 when Henry, Hansen and Smith took over. They weren’t the great team they became. In fact, they were quite average.
Okay, but we're they tucking idiots?
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@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Not sure if many remember what the ABs were like in 2004 when Henry, Hansen and Smith took over. They weren’t the great team they became. In fact, they were quite average.
Yeah they made some big calls on the end of year tour and went with youth (Carter, So'oialo, Collins etc)
Let's see if Razor does the same
I'm not holding my breath
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@stodders said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Victor-Meldrew no reliable kicker in international rugby, no winning.
ABs had the opportunity in 2nd half to go back in front and put pressure back on SA. They failed. That isn’t Robertson’s fault.
Who coaches the team on how and when to pressure the opposition?
Ardie failing to secure the ball at the back of the maul after winning the lineout. Is that the coach’s fault? And then the team compounded it with a penalty with a reckless clear out to gift SA an exit.
Who selects and coaches the team on how to do the basics and on the need for discipline when there's a need to put pressure on?
Great that injuries have allowed players like Sititi and Ratima to shine and Vaa'i has been a bit of a revelation but something clearly isn't working
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Ratima Jordan Sititi should have stayed on.
Mentally weak leadership in second half.
Have to try Canes Tosi Numia Proctor Love
Slow wingers don't work out -
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Sititi played out of position and arguably had more impact than Blackadder.
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@Victor-Meldrew come on Vic, that was a coach killer. Savea is one of NZ’s best players, but he has not been 2023 Savea this year. Too many switch off moments from him.
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Can't wait for Plummer to be dropped from the squad without playing a game
The best 10 in Super Rugby this year
Given he can play 2 positions, and kick goals, he may still be a chance.
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@nostrildamus shades of Jerry today
