All Blacks vs England 2
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TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing
He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B What's he actually achieved for a call up? Nothing
He looked much better this year than last year. He has an actual strong sniping running game. We need to transition to these young 9s sooner rather than later in my view. Bring it on.
yeah Probably the next best runner from the base behind Roigard, looking for something different than what they have I would guess.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:
If the AB captain wasn't manhandled at a ruck we wouldn't be having this discussion.
in fairness, if TJP hadn't pissed around at the ruck and just lceared the ball he wouldn't have been there for ScoBa to fall on!
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@KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens
He should be in the conversation. He's good. Both Hotham and Funaki had better seasons than Fakatava. They went with Hotham. No issues.
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.
He got groomed by the current coach, who likes players he picked. Simple.
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.
This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.
This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.
It is, on that basis Reece ,Taylor,Newell,Barrett etc should not be in the AB's.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:
They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.
Exactly.
He's the fifth choice!
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@george33 who? i would argue someone like Fakatava was the "safe" option as has been in and amoungst the AB a lot before, they opted to bring in someone new presumably based on liking what they see
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@Kiwiwomble I definitely rate, Fakatava, Funaki ahead of him, Funaki was the form 9 until Christie returned, if we don't go on super form for backups what's the point of it? just because U have coached him Before at super , well this ain't super look around razor and co , U might be surprised or is this just another us v them situation, any way that's my opinion on it.
