England to whitewash Australia

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It also might be to do with players making themselves available if they feel they're going to be looked after.
 
Has Eddie had much of a say over the welfare of his national squad as it relates to club time? Like running particular camps to take time out of club rugby etc.

Catogrande

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Fair to say we got the rub of the green, but we do seem to have reduced the number of dumb penalties given away especially by the likes of Cole and Haskell... 

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I think this is the main reason we did get most of the 50/50 calls. Previously we were back to back world champs at stupid penalties but now we seem to have rectified this to a huge degree. If you're not giving away the daft ones you stand a better chance of winning the 50/50 calls IMO.

barbarian

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I think this is the main reason we did get most of the 50/50 calls. Previously we were back to back world champs at stupid penalties but now we seem to have rectified this to a huge degree. If you're not giving away the daft ones you stand a better chance of winning the 50/50 calls IMO.
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Which is a really underrated quality these days, IMO.
 
It goes to rugby intelligence - we laud guys who know when to go in for the pilfer, but it's equally important to know when not to, or know how to do it in a way that doesn't give away a penalty.
 
Pocock is good at this, Fardy is quite poor. And England have been incredible, the best I have ever seen.

mariner4life

Pocock wasn't so smart in the first, he made some really dumb decisions at the breakdown, uncharacteristic ones. 
 
Aus have been outsmarted and and outmuscled, a bad combination, and not what we expect from the Aussies. 
 
I do expect them to win this week, but then I've expected them to win every week, so don't stick the house on it.

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Which is a really underrated quality these days, IMO.
 
It goes to rugby intelligence - we laud guys who know when to go in for the pilfer, but it's equally important to know when not to, or know how to do it in a way that doesn't give away a penalty.
 
Pocock is good at this, Fardy is quite poor. And England have been incredible, the best I have ever seen.
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Barbarian, was that you speaking on the GAGR + Egg Chasers podcast? I think one of you mentioned that Australia had a very antagonistic relationship with the referee and that might have influenced the lack of penalties going the Wallaby's way.

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I do expect them to win this week, but then I've expected them to win every week, so don't stick the house on it. 
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Fuck, then its YOUR fault! Bloody Queenslanders cursing our shit. 
 
Get ready for the whitewash everyone!
 
England are $1.95 at the TAB, Wallabies $1.85. Line is +1.5

mariner4life

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Fuck, then its YOUR fault! Bloody Queenslanders cursing our shit. 
 
Get ready for the whitewash everyone!
 
England are $1.95 at the TAB, Wallabies $1.85. Line is +1.5
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well, blaming me certainly makes a change from the average aussie fan blaming the wingers (or any player not from their Super side)

NTA

Don't forget the ref.

mariner4life

how could I, facebook won't let me.

barbarian

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Barbarian, was that you speaking on the GAGR + Egg Chasers podcast? I think one of you mentioned that Australia had a very antagonistic relationship with the referee and that might have influenced the lack of penalties going the Wallaby's way.
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Yeah that's me.
 
That was a well made point (wasn't me). Again reflects badly on Moore. He was getting into the niggle, encouraging it, and we were screaming at the ref all game. So it's not surprising that England got the 50/50s.

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Yeah that's me.
 
That was a well made point (wasn't me). Again reflects badly on Moore. He was getting into the niggle, encouraging it, and we were screaming at the ref all game. So it's not surprising that England got the 50/50s.
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That was a really good listen. Good stuff all around.

barbarian

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That was a really good listen. Good stuff all around.
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Thanks mate. Been fun to do, even if the result wasn't the one we wanted.

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WALLABIES TEAM

James Slipper - Reds (76 Tests)
Stephen Moore (c) - Brumbies (104 Tests)
Sekope Kepu - Waratahs (65 Tests)
Will Skelton - Waratahs (14 Tests)
Rob Simmons - Reds (61 Tests)
Scott Fardy - Brumbies (32 Tests)
Michael Hooper (vc) - Waratahs (53 Tests)
Sean McMahon - Rebels (8 Tests)
Nick Phipps - Waratahs (41 Tests)
Bernard Foley - Waratahs (29 Tests)
Rob Horne (vc) - Waratahs (31 Tests)
Matt Toomua - Brumbies (31 Tests)
Tevita Kuridrani - Brumbies (33 Tests)
Dane Haylett-Petty - Western Force (2 Tests)
Israel Folau - Waratahs (40 Tests) 
Replacements (One to be omitted) 
Tatafu Polota-Nau - Waratahs (63 Tests) 
Scott Sio - Brumbies (17 Tests) 
Greg Holmes - Reds (25 Tests) 
Adam Coleman (Uncapped) 
Dean Mumm - Waratahs (46 Tests) 
Wycliff Palu - Waratahs (57 Tests) 
Nick Frisby - Reds (2 Tests) 
Christian Lealiâ€™ifano - Brumbies (17 Tests) 
Taqele Naiyaravoro - Waratahs (1 Test)

mariner4life

The selecting in this series is fucked. What the fuck is with the 2nd row? Kuridrani untouchable? Sio in and out? A new winger on the bench?

NTA

You get the impression he's just used this whole series for auditions leading into TRC

mariner4life

he must feel very secure in his job. the Wallaby public don't see it that way.

NTA

Though I'd like to see Coleman get a run at the back end of the game. 
 
Still don't understand McMahon at 8.
 
Skelton included is yellow card territory for us - not going to fix discipline issues in a hurry that way :)

NTA

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he must feel very secure in his job. the Wallaby public don't see it that way. 
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I don't think anyone in the land of the Wallaby public has been happy since Macqueen took a bunch of ragtag misfits and won a shitload of silverware and crystal goblets.

mariner4life

short memories and limited recent success mean if it works out, and he grabs one of the big trophies later in the year, this whole tour will be forgotten about. It's a risk, because if it goes tits up, then the whole year will be viewed as a disaster.

NTA

Yeah and I'm not sure, short of this being a huge snow job, that we're going in that direction.
 
Anyway, I'm going over to GAGR to see how shrill the QLDers are getting.

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England to whitewash Australia