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  • TimT Away
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    Don't think I've ever seen a corporate implosion like this one?

    Hours after Mr. Altman was ousted, OpenAI executives confronted the remaining board members during a video call, according to three people who were on the call.

    During the call, Jason Kwon, OpenAI’s chief strategy officer, said the board was endangering the future of the company by pushing out Mr. Altman. This, he said, violated the members’ responsibilities.

    Ms. Toner disagreed. The board’s mission is to ensure that the company creates artificial intelligence that “benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that could be consistent with its mission. In the board’s view, OpenAI would be stronger without Mr. Altman.

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    @Tim

    What was he actually fired for?

    All I saw was 'not candid' which seems pretty broad.

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    @gt12 Seems it was a power struggle with the board.

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    come on, i can't be the only one to read a statement that reads

    "benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that could be consistent with its mission"

    And not have "the only way for AI to save humanity from harm is to save it from itself" sci fi vibes

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    @mariner4life Computer Science and delusions of grandeur go hand in hand, so to with complete ignorance of the physical world.

    Some of these people really think they are on the verge of creating a sentient super intelligence if they just make the matrices a bit bigger.

    Just don't ask them for proof ...

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    @mariner4life think more of not getting lost just to commercialisation (unless you're ball deep in NVIDIA shares) or not being used for just more impressive fraud, theft and power grabs

    Hell, I bet a few people on here could build a deep fake now..

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    @bayimports The battle between scam bots and phone bots will be interesting. I look forward to never answering a phone call again.

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    @Tim the fact that they can even train voice recognition within 3 seconds is insane

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    LOL

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    One of the better takes from today:

    AI safety seems a lot like framing losing as winning.

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    What an incredible past few days. 500 of the 700 employees have said they will quit if he’s not re-instated. The new, new CEO has said he will quit if the board doesn’t explain why Sam was fired in writing.

    Bloody bizarre. 90B valuation pisses away.

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    @Kirwan

    Absolutely insane position for the board to take: they approved formation of the commercial entity, approved raising billions from investors, approved 49% stake sale to Microsoft, approved hiring 700+ employees, then they turn around and say "I'm fine with destroying the company if it I don't think it will achieve a nebulous and impossible goal, and I have no responsibility to any corporate concerns because this organization originally started as a non-profit."

    Insane! Imagine being a money burning startup and having to deal with people like that.

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    @bayimports said in OpenAI:

    @Tim the fact that they can even train voice recognition within 3 seconds is insane

    I have a collection of old B&W films. There's an open-source/free app which reads the audio track and generates almost perfect subtitles in 20-30 minutes.....

    Can't but think the OpenAI internal feud is all about the commercialisation/exploitation of those sort of possibilities.

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    Saw this demo of image editing/generation from the free OSS Krita the other day.

    GitHub - Acly/krita-ai-diffusion: Streamlined interface for generating images with AI in Krita. Inpaint and outpaint with optional text prompt, no tweaking required.

    GitHub - Acly/krita-ai-diffusion: Streamlined interface for generating images with AI in Krita. Inpaint and outpaint with optional text prompt, no tweaking required.

    Streamlined interface for generating images with AI in Krita. Inpaint and outpaint with optional text prompt, no tweaking required. - Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

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    @Tim

    I'm on the Microsoft Insider programme and the AI-aided Office is about to drop soon. Apparently it can search thru an email conversation and prepare a summary & timeline and print/post it to OneNote or Word in something like 20 seconds...

    Absolute winner that.

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    @Victor-Meldrew The longed for future of never reading emails or answering phone calls again!

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    Another relevant take from today:

    I'm convinced there is a certain class of people who gravitate to positions of power, like "moderators", (partisan) journalists, etc. Now, the ultimate moderator role has now been created, more powerful than moderating 1000 subreddits - the AI safety job who will control what AI "thinks"/says for "safety" reasons.
    Pretty soon AI will be an expert at subtly steering you toward thinking/voting for whatever the "safety" experts want.

    It's probably convenient for them to have everyone focused on the fear of evil Skynet wiping out humanity, while everyone is distracted from the more likely scenario of people with an agenda controlling the advice given to you by your super intelligent assistant.

    Because of X, we need to invade this country. Because of Y, we need to pass all these terrible laws limiting freedom. Because of Z, we need to make sure AI is "safe".

    For this reason, I view "safe" AIs as more dangerous than "unsafe" ones.

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    @Victor-Meldrew I like the idea that the future of AI is all about accurate subtitles for 20th century films.

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    Ha, looks Sam won. Back in and will be a new board. Microsoft with some board seats no doubt.

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    I’m using the GitHub Copilot product, it’s frankly unbelievable. At least a 50% increase in my output, including writing code in languages I barely know.

    Is insanely helpful

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