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    @mariner4life 😹 you think we have lights you could actually play under?!

    you seem to think im suggesting things cant be rearranged, of course they can...the point was do it right once consulting everyone involved, which maybe they have seeing as its after the season ends

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    lol fuck this country is enormous. You are in a different city. You can't honestly expect the ARU to go to each amateur union in cities/states not even hosting the game and make sure they are on board?

    Better make sure they get on the horn to FNQ Rugby as well. Oh wait nah they'll be finished too.

    (also, if you've seen some of the lights we play under up here to avoid heat...)

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    @mariner4life ....i mean...make the decision earlier and then allow local unions to make their draw in accordance.....dont think its that complicated or hard to understand....but also a not issue in the case as has been said....so not sure why youre so worked up

    and i wasn't talking about Vic Rugby....i specifically mention @NTA for the NSW angle

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    I'm not worked up

    TO me this is a continuation of a theme. We have a whole "current state of rugby" and NZRU review thread. People constantly go on about the need for change.

    But, every time a governing body tries to make change, someone will instantly come up with a "but that changes something for me, and i don't like it"

    Being a sports administrator is a shit gig.

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    ....but i do like it...very much, my first words were "Awesome news"

    the original comment was just it seemed like an easy win....but has already been said...non issue, and they may have actually considered it

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    From outside it reads like yet more incompetence. Why would you schedule a Bledisloe Test against the NRL Finals

    What round? Bit of an indictment that a test can't compete against the early rounds of the Finals.

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    We 100% should be changing our eligibility rules to allow him to play again.

    The missed touch finder was chef's kiss for me.

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    Who can replace the iconic All Blacks duo Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick?

    Who can replace the iconic All Blacks duo Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick?

    Josh Lord could be the most intriguing option as New Zealand seek to replace second-row legends Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock.

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    With my bias eye patch on I think Fabian Holland should be a big shout. He will be eligible in 2025. By that time he will have played 30 - 40 Super Rugby games. Will only be 22 turning 23. He is 2.04 m and is listed at 124 kg. Think he is your most like for like replacement

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    @SouthernMann I agree. Holland has the size but is also very mobile, and a ball-carrier.

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    @SouthernMann agree so much with you and @Bovidae on Holland. Been ranting about him for a couple of years, he seems to have all skills, size etc, and I love his workrate!

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @SouthernMann agree so much with you and @Bovidae on Holland. Been ranting about him for a couple of years, he seems to have all skills, size etc, and I love his workrate!

    Based on what? He's hardly played Super.

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    @Crazy-Horse you understand the idea looking into the future? you take a little bit of info and extrapolate it out into the future

    he's had a couple of good NPC seasons and 8-10 super games where he's looked more the comfortable...that combined with the fact he's not going to get shorter and unlikely to suddenly loose 30kg

    if he was already proven then it wouldn't exactly be much of a call would it

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Crazy-Horse you understand the idea looking into the future? you take a little bit of info and extrapolate it out into the future

    he's had a couple of good NPC seasons and 8-10 super games where he's looked more the comfortable...that combined with the fact he's not going to get shorter and unlikely to suddenly loose 30kg

    if he was already proven then it wouldn't exactly be much of a call would it

    Yeah, he seems to have the ingredients but PPP seemed to as well until he revealed himself as a gentle giant. It's a big couple of years for Holland, he needs to show he is hard enough. Hopefully he is.

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    personally i think injuries have been more of issues, i think when fit he still shows some good signs of a physical game in line with his size, definately dont agree with the "gentle giant" tag...hes a long way off someone like Jamie Mackintosh

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    If you look at that cohort of locks that played for NZ Schools/Barbarians (Zac Gallagher, Allan Craig, Jamie Hannah, Fiti Sa) I think that Holland has the biggest upside.

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    Is Holland eligible for the ABs this season?

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    replied to Frank on last edited by Kiwiwomble
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    @Frank he's not...as @SouthernMann said, 2025

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    I don't rate him but I wouldn't be surprised to see Strange involved given who the selectors are

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Crazy-Horse you understand the idea looking into the future? you take a little bit of info and extrapolate it out into the future

    he's had a couple of good NPC seasons and 8-10 super games where he's looked more the comfortable...that combined with the fact he's not going to get shorter and unlikely to suddenly loose 30kg

    if he was already proven then it wouldn't exactly be much of a call would it

    Yeah, he seems to have the ingredients but PPP seemed to as well until he revealed himself as a gentle giant. It's a big couple of years for Holland, he needs to show he is hard enough. Hopefully he is.

    He has a lot more to his game than PPP. Holland has a running game, can pass, offload in the tackle and turnover the ball. PPP is seen as a dominant player who is too soft to be dominant.

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