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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    Oh leave poor Glassadder alone!

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334308/damian-mckenzie-takes-hold-all-blacks-no-10-jersey-while-richie-mounga-looms-large

    Voerman presuming Barrett or Perofeta will start the Fiji match.

    Would there really be any reason to rest Mckenzie? There's a three week break till the next test after Fiji, and the longest run of consecutive tests is five, to finish the year.

    I can see the point of bringing another player in at 10 vs Fiji to ensure they're up to running the cutter in Robertson's scheme, but Barrett shouldn't need to have a sample game after 124 caps. If Perofeta is a fullback and to be replaced by Jordan when he comes available, neither should he.

    I see more value in continuity learning the new system, especially in a lower pressure game where more risks can be taken.

    We've still got Australia and Japan to come if we need to introduce another 10 to the game plan later.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    "Ethan Blackadder and wing Caleb Clarke are carrying niggly injuries."
    How many games before Blackadder's nickname becomes Niggles?

    jesus, when you ask for blackadder but get baldrick 🤪

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    @Kiwiwomble there were photos of Blackadder training in full contact, don't no about the niggles, can't be much in it.

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    @delicatessen said in All Blacks 2024:

    Would there really be any reason to rest Mckenzie? There's a three week break till the next test after Fiji, and the longest run of consecutive tests is five, to finish the year.

    The English left him battered-I'd be surprised they won't try it again.

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    @nostrildamus such is life in the All Blacks 10 jersey. If Dmac plays well again tomorrow night he should for sure be rewarded with a start again against Fiji. Continuity.

    If anything, rest Jordie and Reiko and run ALB and Proctor against Fiji. That way Dmac is building chemistry with others outside him, keep in mind him and ALB most likely know each others game inside out as well.

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    The Fiji test is a Friday night, so a shorter turn-around for the ABs with travel.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Kiwiwomble there were photos of Blackadder training in full contact, don't no about the niggles, can't be much in it.

    Fake news. They must have been staged

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Kiwiwomble there were photos of Blackadder training in full contact, don't no about the niggles, can't be much in it.

    Fake news. They must have been staged

    its true, i found them

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    Some low impact match fitness work for Blackadder...

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    Seriously though, it would be good if he had an extended period of fitness to have a chance to show if he is upto test footy or not.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

    Some low impact match fitness work for Blackadder...

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    Order up! 🛎️ On brunch duties this morning in Auckland ☕️.

    Seriously though, it would be good if he had an extended period of fitness to have a chance to show if he is upto test footy or not.

    I hope he’s careful, he might get a nasty steam burn and be out for the rest of the year

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    @taniwharugby Look, it would, but it ain't happening. His body isn't made to last. He's played what, just over 40 games for the Crusaders in 8 seasons? And 10 tests? 9 of which were in 2021?

    His injuries are at a point where we can't really consider him as anything more than a squad member, and I'm not even trying to sound harsh.

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    Fun fact, Blackadder has averaged 7 games for the Crusaders a season since becoming a Crusader in 2018. I wish I could get paid full time wages for doing a part time job too… damn.

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    Interesting that Roigard is around the squad. I wonder if he is ahead of schedule

    https://www.instagram.com/stories/allblacks/3411633312539303256?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=eWN5c2M0MmVhYzM1

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    Wonder if Noah gets a run against Fiji.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Interesting that Roigard is around the squad. I wonder if he is ahead of schedule

    https://www.instagram.com/stories/allblacks/3411633312539303256?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=eWN5c2M0MmVhYzM1

    I understand he's ahead of schedule massively (thanks to NZCIS facilities) but likely we won't see him until the EOYT.

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    Has anyone seen the touring party to SD? Apparently some players won't be going and/or rested.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Interesting that Roigard is around the squad. I wonder if he is ahead of schedule

    https://www.instagram.com/stories/allblacks/3411633312539303256?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=eWN5c2M0MmVhYzM1

    I understand he's ahead of schedule massively (thanks to NZCIS facilities) but likely we won't see him until the EOYT.

    No rush, he's too valuable in the long term

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    So, after a tight England series, thoughts?

    Props: Scrum good. Defense good. Lineout work not good. Carrying not good. Overall look to be in a pretty good place, but shit we do need some yards out of these blokes.
    Hookers. Taylor has been pretty good around the track defensively, still loves a dumb breakdown penalty. But threw poorly. Aumua looked good off the bench but i am not ready to chuck him the keys yet. Not our worst spot.
    Locks. SBarrett got shown on Saturday what a real world class lock looks like. He's a trier Scott, but he lacks that bit of class to help separate us from other teams. Patty T was picked to carry, and didn't do it too well. Lineout was a bit shit. Vaa'i has added a bit off the bench in both games, has come a long was since last year. As a unit again not bad without being world beaters, obviously scrumming well but need to suss the fucking lineout.
    The tight 5 is the least of our worries it seems. Not dominant, but pretty handy.

    Loosies. Disjointed is the best word i can come up with. Papali'i had an okay test and a good test. He is what he is, and when he's on like Saturday he's an asset. Sure to start going forward. Savea is a problem. All his weaknesses are really highlighted when the youtube reel shit isn't there to compensate. Two very quiet games, definitely beaten by his opposite. Finau barely fired a shot. Definitely looks hesitant where at the level below he's flat out. Could be instructions or it could be that the game is too quick. Needs to find something and quick. The other options aren't tall enough. If Finau isn't going to carry and hit like in Super season then the whole trio is too weak. Jacobson came on and worked, like he does, but he's no differnece maker at this level. Big area of improvement.

    Halfbacks. At expectation. We got what we knew we already had because they are not new. TJ is TJ and will always be TJ. Christie slows the game down and has an average pass. Ratima looked better just because he got the ball out quick and let us play. In my mind decisions to be made, but the coaches may value the experience in South Africa which means the rest of the team will suffer. If our plan is fast and wide, then playing shitty passing halfbacks is an enormous handbrake.

    1. DMac was what we thought. At the heart of everything good we do. Incredible at getting others in to space, or finding mismatches by drawing players. We're obviously trying to get him the ball in wide channels to use his pace (like how the Crusaders used Mo'unga). Kicked from hand pretty well, brought back the wipers as well. When we get bogged down he battles, and definitely looks worse with ropey ball from 9. Tough as fuck in defense as well.

    Midfield. Should be settled, probably isn't. I see the sentiment on here is still "play Reiko on the wing, he can't distribute" even though that is never happening. Looks to me like they are being asked to play narrow and straight to try and give DMac space to loop them and get out wide. Problem is, neither of our midfield are actually great passers of the ball. Jordie passes late, and often very inaccurately, putting everyone under pressure. Reiko is not a natural either. I still think this is our best combination, JB can really carry in traffic, and Reiko has pace. They just need to work out the new system. Defensively they are adequate, but neither rock solid.

    Wingers: okay i guess. Reece is a livewire, happy to pin his ears, happy to stick his head over the ball. Telea beats tacklers for fun, but lacks top end pace, and defensively is pretty suspect. I am not sure either should be feeling confident about their place going forward.

    Fullbacks: Hand up, very wrong about both these blokes. Perofeta went way better than i thought. Still put himself under pressure unnecessarily at times, but should have set up a try in both games, and looked quite lively in attack. Obviously my "BB is cooked" aged like milk. Ok in the first, but with the same shit we have whinged about for years. The 2nd had a ropey kick, and that skill/luck double kick. But he came on and added a lot. He and DMac always look like they play well together. Two good options. When Jordan comes back he's a wing again?

    I don't really see what the plan is except to use DMacs passing to outflank the rush, or to loop him and get him in the wider spaces. Carrying needs work as the English rush defence was sitting guys down as soon as they got the ball. The way the Irish set up their forward runners compared to ours is night and day different.
    Defence looks okay, but England got plenty of joy when they put pace on the game, and we are still quite passive. It looked to me like a huge focus on legs tackles rather than dominant hits, which is a big departure from previous years.

    Great to win 2-0. The Fiji game you would think makes it 3-0 to start. Plenty to work on before a big game in the Republic.

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    @Bovidae only 32 going I was told. Hoping to hear some names that aren’t going later today

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