All Blacks 2024
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.
Please pick Scooter. Please pick Scooter. Just please.
I'm a big Ardie fan, but his captaincy hasn't been great. I'd pick Scott, and I wouldn't care that he goes on a sabbatical next year. That's my prediction
Hope Robertson makes his choice on a long-term basis and not just on sabbaticals. Wonder if he'll pick a permanent VC as well.
Grace or Strange have many years ahead of them in black...
Grace I can live with
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@Duluth That's a reasonable assessment.
That must be an old weight for Darry - looks a good 10kgs heavier to me. Assuming so, that's the dimensions I'd be looking for in a lock.
In an interview last week, Scott Barrett said he'd have been 50-50 to play if there had been a game at the weekend, so that's promising for England.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
That must be an old weight for Darry
Yes. He's had the same weight listed on the Blues website since 2021
He's clearly put on weight in the last few years
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I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?
Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?
Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, McCleod, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.
No Ethan Blackadder? Must be injured again...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?
Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, McCleod, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.
No Ethan Blackadder? Must be injured again...
Knew I forgot someone - amended above
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Victor Meldrewreplied to Frank on 11 Jun 2024, 08:01 last edited by Victor Meldrew 11 Jun 2024, 08:08
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
"Blackadder McCleod"
Great name for a love-child....
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
NZRU saving money on player travel.
I didn't want to state the obvious.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
"Blackadder McCleod"
Great name for a love-child....
Better than Strange Grace or Lio-Willie Williams?
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?
Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.
They’ve already booked an Uber from Christchurch airport to grab George Bridge too
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
NZRU saving money on player travel.
I didn't want to state the obvious.
Honestly, apart from the fact that Strange is now basically a certainty, my feeling is that this likely indicates Barrett or Taylor announced as captain.
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I think this shows that we have a short term experience problem at lock which should be turned into a position of strength and depth within 18 months.
There is plenty of talent
Barrett is a world class lock so big ✅ for one of the 3 locking roles in a match day 23.
Vai’l has been a leader since high school (head boy at school) so Thrusting Vai’i into a senior role could be the making of him. His newfound seniority at the chiefs have seen him go up a level with his lineout work amongst the best in the comp.
Tuipolotu will be a valuable resource for the next 2 seasons. Just a shame he is not fit for the England series but he has a valuable part to play.
Out of the uncapped locks, there is talent but it needs to be tested at the highest level. Out of the 5 or 6 options listed, you would expect a couple of them to really take an opportunity handed to them and grow into international class players.
We need some of these 2.03m/2.04m players to really step up as the lineout is shortish with the above 3 locks being under 2 metres.
The good news is that the pack looks like it will be very good so that will make it easier to support and embed the young inexperienced locks into it.
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@DaGrubster Yeah - I agree.
It's very unfortunate that Barrett, Tuipolotu and Lord are all injured right now - because ideally we'd have those three and Vaa'i in the squad for this year, with several other young and tall guys bubbling under. If all of Lord, Darry and Holland can live up to their promise, we'd have quite an arsenal of 2+ metre locks.
All going well we'll at least have Barrett and Vaa'i available for England.
It will be pretty concerning if we don't have Scott available.
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in
My source tells me he's 50-50
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that
Papalii as captain - 50-50 George?
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,
That's a 50-50 call. (I don't support the Hurricanes)
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank what's your team then ?
None really.
Perhaps the Floncy Fairweathers?I just enjoy new stars emerging from any team (Roigard and Finau for instance).
I have never lived in NZ while Super has been played except Uni' at Auckland, never went to high school in NZ either, and my childhood town, Gisborne, is miles from any base)
So, it's a 50-50 call on any game.
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Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form
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I reckon Love could cover wing and make a decent fist of it. Very Smith/Jane like.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO. -
The whole barometer system is a bit random. Players who have been injured for a couple of weeks are excluded, as are guys who are based overseas. It's fine if you're just talking about potential selections but everyone knows that Ardie Savea is going to be in the squad and that changes the make-up of the loose forwards. It also feels fairly reactive, which I suppose is necessary if you want to change the squad up every two weeks. Ultimately, 75 per cent of the squad could have been predicted at the start of the season by every Tom, Dick and Harry.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.Downvote.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form
Not picking Lomax to start. Fuck off!
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My personal 'barometer' (with the numbers actually adding up correctly, unlike Richard Knowler's random percentages):
Hookers
Codie Taylor - 100%
Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100%
Asafo Aumua - 100%Props
Ethan de Groot - 100%
Tyrel Lomax - 100%
Fletcher Newell - 100%
Tamaiti Williams - 80%
Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
Xaver Numia - 50%
George Bower - 50%
George Dyer - 10%Locks
Scott Barrett - 100%
Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
Quinten Strange - 80%
Sam Darry - 50%
Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 30%
Isaia Walker-Leawere - 20%
Jamie Hannah - 20%Loose forwards
Ardie Savea - 100%
Dalton Papali'i - 100%
Samipeni Finau - 70%
Ethan Blackadder - 60%
Hoskins Sotutu - 50%
Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
Peter Lakai - 50%
Luke Jacobson - 40%
Brayden Iose - 30%Halfbacks
Finlay Christie - 80%
TJ Perenara - 80%
Cortez Ratima - 50%
Taufa Funaki - 40%
Folau Fakatava - 30%
Noah Hotham - 20%First fives
Damian McKenzie - 100%
Beauden Barrett - 100%
Harry Plummer - 30%
Cam Millar - 10%Midfield
Jordie Barrett - 100%
Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
Rieko Ioane - 100%
Billy Proctor - 70%
David Havili - 15%
Quinn Tupaea - 10%
Rameka Poihipi - 5%Outside backs
Mark Tele'a - 100%
Sevu Reece - 100%
Ruben Love - 100%
Caleb Clarke - 80%
Emoni Narawa - 60%
Etene Nanai-Seturo - 20%Note: I've assumed Patrick Tuipulotu is unavailable but that Xavier Numia is fit for the series.
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All Blacks add Corey Flynn and David Hill to coaching staff
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350308970/all-blacks-add-corey-flynn-and-david-hill-coaching-staff -
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?
Isn't it going to be from Razor's club Sumner? Think I heard that at some stage on Breakdown. No probs it got to be done somewhere.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
All Blacks add Corey Flynn and David Hill to coaching staff
We're gonna need a bigger bus.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form
If that's based on form, then I'm surprised Funaki isn't in the no.9 mix.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did you forget Sotutu or are you giving him 0%?
Whoops - forgot him. I think it's probably 50/50 whether he gets the call up. On the one hand, he's in career-best form. On the other hand, whenever he's been in career-best form in the past he's not transferred that to Test rugby and the selectors never trusted him against the bigger teams, so not sure what exactly has changed.
Dropped Blackadder, Lio-Willie, Lakai, Jacobson and Iose all down 10% to accommodate.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The whole barometer system is a bit random. Players who have been injured for a couple of weeks are excluded, as are guys who are based overseas. It's fine if you're just talking about potential selections but everyone knows that Ardie Savea is going to be in the squad and that changes the make-up of the loose forwards. It also feels fairly reactive, which I suppose is necessary if you want to change the squad up every two weeks. Ultimately, 75 per cent of the squad could have been predicted at the start of the season by every Tom, Dick and Harry.
Pretty sure Richard Knowler knows this, but he wants to get half a dozen barometer articles out of the Super season - and he won't get paid if he just recycles the same names from article 1. Excluding Ardie and Beauden allows him to chuck in an extra couple of randoms.
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