RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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Would rather have been playing England.
Playing SA in the Final is all going to be about the Scrums,Line outs and probably the winning of the game will be with the boot and the battle of the Air.
The kicking and the battle of the air is my main worry where we could falter. -
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All the concerns about the Springboks scrum, the ABs handling has been superb the last two tests so if they can keep handling errors to a minimum, they should have a steady enough platform to play off.
If ever there is a time for the kicking to come right, it's next week. We have a real good shot at this. But since it has worked to date, Foster is shit and the ABs are going to get smoked. -
@Chris totally agree
Firstly on the official , it would not surprise me if Mathieu Raynal is given the final primarily because of political purposes
The long range weather forecast for Paris is not great so conditions could be very similar to what we saw this morning
My concern coming out of this morning was the impact from Springbok bench , it was out the gate especially the 2 props Ox Nche and Vincent Koch who very influentialThe question for the All Black coaches is , do we go for stronger scrummagers off the bench ..? Eg Tu’ungafasi and Laulala or do we stick with these young guns we don’t want to be in a similar position to England this morning
For me the other learnings from the game this morning was the kicking game of England especially in the last 20 minutes , it worked for the first 60 minutes but at 15-6 up they needed to kick long as opposed to high kicks ..
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Mathieu Raynal i
Would probably suit the Boks and is inclined to do something radical which is a worry.
I would prefer Barnes he lets the game flow more.
Props are a question Nepo can be a penalty magnet and is not the best defender.
50/50 call for the reserves props I think.
Williams might be handy with some go forward in the last 20 minutes. -
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@Joans-Town-Jones what about if the Boks drop the ball on purpose to force the ABs to scrum 😉
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@stodders said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Joans-Town-Jones what about if the Boks drop the ball on purpose to force the ABs to scrum 😉
I'm not worried about the scrum, in the game we got smashed we had a forward red carded halfway through and lost one scrum, SA lost 2.
In the game we smashed them, we lost one a piece. Our scrum is fine versus Boks.
If the weather is crap, our poor exits and lack of kick chase will be what I am worried about. That and we get a card or 2, pretty much every game. Even when we are not under pressure
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@stodders said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Joans-Town-Jones what about if the Boks drop the ball on purpose to force the ABs to scrum 😉
As I said, on our ball we're fine.
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Fuck we're talking refs
But Barnes loves a free for all at the breakdown and so do the boks
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I'm interested in the defensive pattern this week. The soak defence works so well on that northern style attack.
But I'm not sure I am happy sitting back and letting big suffer forwards roll.
I'm strangely confident the coaches have a plan though. -
Would really like to Fozzie via his press conference opportunities make a real statement in and around time wasting ,injuries , water breaks or slow set piece set up.
Really put it out there as a blight on the game there before the Final -
@KiwiMurph and only met once before in a final...we are 0/1
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Would really like to Fozzie via his press conference opportunities make a real statement in and around time wasting ,injuries , water breaks or slow set piece set up.
Really put it out there as a blight on the game there before the FinalANd every kiwi pundit needs to keep it in the news, whinge horrendously enough that SA pundits react, and the NH pundits whinge about our whinges, keeping it in everyone's mind. C'mon lets out Rassie, rassie. Legally!
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@mariner4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Fuck we're talking refs
But Barnes loves a free for all at the breakdown and so do the boks
Pros and cons for all the candidates. We just have to do what we've been doing and up our kick game
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SA should be massive favourites.
RWC finals are always tight nervy affairs. SA has given 2 masterclasses in a row on how to win such games. NZ has just given masterclasses on how to give away yellow cards in such situations.
NZ even in its knockout wins have struggled to exit their own 22. The clearing kickers are all only capable of kicking short distances and are more prone to skewing it off the side of the boot. More often NZ win the lineout on their own 22 then kick it out 2 metres further down field from where they won it. SA has consistently cleared it up to the halfway line
Last game we struggled to repel the Boks mauls and scrum. We are likely to pick a very inexperienced reserve front row again.
Mark Telea was exposed against the Argentines as being average under the high ball. No way Rassie Erasmus has not noted this.
SA have more veterans likely to be in their last RWC and probably likely to retire straight after. They will be more incentivized to send these players out as winners.
SA players have more experience playing under NH refs with their players exposed to them in the URC. NZ is more likely to run foul of their interpretations.
The neutrals despite what they will claim will want SA to win. The Irish will be obsessed with seeing NZ punished for beating them, the English will want the Saffers to win so they can believe they were a whisker from winning the whole thing and the Welsh and Scottish will see more sport in winding up NZ fans after a loss. French, Argentinian and Italian fans will probably support NZ but it will be lost in translation.
Finally Rassie Erasmus is a proven RWC winning coach. Ian Foster couldn't even win a Super rugby title, Joe Schmidt couldn't get the Irish past the quarterfinals and Jason Ryan is still finding his feet at International level.
