RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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It'll be a real shame if the weather is wet as forecast. Would have been great to see a spectacle of contrasting styles, you'd expect that contrast to be somewhat diminished if conditions don't suit.
I was quite keen to see how the rush defense in particular went against us - it was pretty noticable against Ireland that we used our midfield as crash runners, but against the Argies we looked more like Ireland with decoy runners in front and a deeper 2nd line.
I'm also keen to see how we defend - against Ireland we were so narrow, and almost got caught wide a few times - we spread a bit against Argentina, and I can't imagine we would want to be as narrow again against the speed of SA (assuming the ball ever makes it to their wingers).
Another tactic I noticed England do well last week was when contesting the high ball in attack, they often didn't actually try to catch it in the air (which can often result in a knock-on), instead just tried to get one hand to it and knock it backwards. They were then very good at having 2-3 forwards about 5m behind the play running forward at pace in the hope of regathering the knock-back. Worked a few times.
As always, my main hope is just that the players get to decide the outcome. I'm sick of talking about referees, and I really hope we aren't doing it on Sunday, regardless of outcome.
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The thing i like, man for man if you go through the players , they seem to have hit form
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@frugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Dan54 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Stag said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Hooroo so we have become just another one of those teams that don’t care about results between world cups? Don’t thinks so, that’s never been the All Blacks. Win or lose the World Cup that doesn’t change the results over the past 4 years and Foster will still have one one of the worst records as coach of the AB’s. Credit where credits due if Fozz wins the WC, but the AB’s have always been about winning, wether at the World Cup or not, and that aura has been severely diminished under Foster.
You actually got it a bit wrong mate, Foster (as a coach)actually has the best results in competitions since he took over anyway, Won Tri nations, theRugby championships, held the Bledisloe and Freedom cup. This team is only one to do that in professional era under any coach So if results are everything you missing the point. I not arguing one way or another on his ability, just you may need to just redo your argument.
That is totally ignoring context though... in that Tri Nations series, we lost to Argentina and drew with Aussie, only won it because the other two sides weren't all that.
Don't forget that home series loss to Ireland either.
So when Foster wins it's only because the opposition were poo. When the ABs lose, it'll all down to Foster.
Who'd be a coach in a RWC Final eh?
Completely ignores the fact that Ireland has beaten EVRY major playing rugby nation in the last year or 2, so following frugby's logic, that means all these teams are coached by poor coaches?
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@voodoo I have noticed we defend quite narrow at times, but seem to back our speed to take on the wide pass? Also like we seem to be in general defending the ball. I still think against Boks, we will try to take them on in close and give a target for out forwards to hit, and then turn them in on defence. Only guesswork of course.
And on the players staying on ground and tapping kicks back, works if you have plenty of support of the first player, and still need usually a good bounce. But agree Poms did it quite well at times. -
All Blacks easily. First RWC final with the winning team scoring 50.
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@antipodean it is only Tuesday. Best ease up on the drinking if you hope to see the final 😂
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@antipodean said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
All Blacks easily. First RWC final with the winning team scoring 50.
This is where carrying that extra winger so we can get in more practice will really come into play and we can expect sparkling tries from all over the park.
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@antipodean said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
All Blacks easily. First RWC final with the winning team scoring 50.
Love the enthusiasm
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@voodoo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
It'll be a real shame if the weather is wet as forecast.
My trusty Norwegians are saying a bit of drizzle at worst.
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@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Wayne Barnes confirmed as World Cup referee:
South Africans will be pleased. They've only lost with Barnes as ref once in 10 attempts.
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@voodoo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@gt12 not sure my wife operates on the same logic as you, but I appreciate the sentiment 😂
not sure she has a leg to stand on....
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@Dan54 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@frugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Dan54 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Stag said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Hooroo so we have become just another one of those teams that don’t care about results between world cups? Don’t thinks so, that’s never been the All Blacks. Win or lose the World Cup that doesn’t change the results over the past 4 years and Foster will still have one one of the worst records as coach of the AB’s. Credit where credits due if Fozz wins the WC, but the AB’s have always been about winning, wether at the World Cup or not, and that aura has been severely diminished under Foster.
You actually got it a bit wrong mate, Foster (as a coach)actually has the best results in competitions since he took over anyway, Won Tri nations, theRugby championships, held the Bledisloe and Freedom cup. This team is only one to do that in professional era under any coach So if results are everything you missing the point. I not arguing one way or another on his ability, just you may need to just redo your argument.
That is totally ignoring context though... in that Tri Nations series, we lost to Argentina and drew with Aussie, only won it because the other two sides weren't all that.
Don't forget that home series loss to Ireland either.
So when Foster wins it's only because the opposition were poo. When the ABs lose, it'll all down to Foster.
Who'd be a coach in a RWC Final eh?
Completely ignores the fact that Ireland has beaten EVRY major playing rugby nation in the last year or 2, so following frugby's logic, that means all these teams are coached by poor coaches?
Not at all, but you can't ignore that was a historic home series defeat. If it was one loss you probably wouldn't mind it, but after losing the first one, to drop the second and third, including that embarrassing first half in the third test was abysmal. I don't want to live in the past, but you can't rewrite history.
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@antipodean said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Wayne Barnes confirmed as World Cup referee:
South Africans will be pleased. They've only lost with Barnes as ref once in 10 attempts.
As I understand it ABs have won 4 on the trot under Barnes and Boks have only been refereed by him once this cycle (the one loss)
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I'm very surprised the boks haven't come out with a sight up denial of the fluffybunny calling. 'We asked bongi, he said it never happened. End of story'. So either he's guilty, or rassie is using it as fuel for his team 'the world's against us and curry is actually a fluffybunny who is white'
At least the colour of the jerseys is going to be correct, with no awful alternate uniforms
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@Machpants said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I'm very surprised the boks haven't come out with a sight up denial of the fluffybunny calling. 'We asked bongi, he said it never happened. End of story'. So either he's guilty, or rassie is using it as fuel for his team 'the world's against us and curry is actually a fluffybunny who is white'
At least the colour of the jerseys is going to be correct, with no awful alternate uniforms
There's a fair bit of speculation online that Bongi was using an Afrikaans term that phonetically sounds very similar to what was alleged.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Machpants said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I'm very surprised the boks haven't come out with a sight up denial of the fluffybunny calling. 'We asked bongi, he said it never happened. End of story'. So either he's guilty, or rassie is using it as fuel for his team 'the world's against us and curry is actually a fluffybunny who is white'
At least the colour of the jerseys is going to be correct, with no awful alternate uniforms
There's a fair bit of speculation online that Bongi was using an Afrikaans term that phonetically sounds very similar to what was alleged.
yeah, and does make a lot of sense, if all or most of my team spoke a language most other teams didnt then id use it for comms during a game too
I even saw a video today where you can hear him/someone yelling it during play
@Machpants said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I'm very surprised the boks haven't come out with a sight up denial of the fluffybunny calling. 'We asked bongi, he said it never happened. End of story'. So either he's guilty, or rassie is using it as fuel for his team 'the world's against us and curry is actually a fluffybunny who is white'
At least the colour of the jerseys is going to be correct, with no awful alternate uniforms
is that confirmed? good...but it make the whole argument a bit limp....if its not important enough to implement for the biggest game then why role it out at all?
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