RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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@Tim said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Papalii will be the captain next year.
Taukei'aho will be hooker.
NZ will start their best players, finally.
I’d like to hear your thoughts on where you think Ethan Blackadder will fit into all of this
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Credit to SA for the win, but I think we can say we lost that with a lack of composure at crucial times...several losses of our own lineout in thier 22, poor handling, pushing passes and not putting the ball out in that final 10 at every chance with thier struggling lineout.
We could have won it, but didn't.
Totally, not the ref, not SA, we lost ourselves. Mentally weren't sharp enough, I wonder who Gilbert's replacement is, that could be key going forward
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@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Cards aside, I reckon we hit most of our KPIs today.
Defensive line out was fucking immense
I mean, not only was it immense because of the AB jumpers but ffs, you’ve got a blindside flanker throwing in and NZ barely kicked the ball out - muppets
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@Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Cards aside, I reckon we hit most of our KPIs today.
Defensive line out was fucking immense
I mean, not only was it immense because of the AB jumpers but ffs, you’ve got a blindside flanker throwing in and NZ barely kicked the ball out - muppets
That, but the throwing was generally ok. It was the read of the line out that was impressive.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Dodge think it was 6 mins to go, we try to fucking run it from our 22...wtaf
And the Christie can't kick and gets charged
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@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Cards aside, I reckon we hit most of our KPIs today.
Defensive line out was fucking immense
I mean, not only was it immense because of the AB jumpers but ffs, you’ve got a blindside flanker throwing in and NZ barely kicked the ball out - muppets
That, but the throwing was generally ok. It was the read of the line out that was impressive.
It was ok in the second half when NZ didn’t compete (also baffling) but it was short nearly every time
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Congratulations Cane and Foster good show
SA were smarter this what irks me
Rugby is not the same game cf 3 years ago. It's not easy but both yellows were preventable -
@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I have no problem with the outcome of either captain's card. Clear difference based on the framework and mitigation.
Can you elaborate further ? How was Canes harsher than Kolisis ? ( i missed part of the latters as I was getting my third helping of bacon and eggs )
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@mariner4life Lineout and Scrum were massive and we conceded way fewer penalties.
Awesome Bok defence, the cards, poor goalkicking and the backline being off killed us today.
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@MN5 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I have no problem with the outcome of either captain's card. Clear difference based on the framework and mitigation.
Can you elaborate further ? How was Canes harsher than Kolisis ? ( i missed part of the latters as I was getting my third helping of bacon and eggs )
Cane was upright, with reasonable force, direct contact. No mitigation.
Kolisi had contact through the body, lowered himself a little, and the head contact was almost incidental like a whiplash.
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Can’t get over the fact SA won this in spite of the genius coach, lineout nearly cost them because he didn’t pick a hooker, backline he got away with it because they didn’t play any rugby and NZ knocked on in wide channels too many times. Pollard did nothing and kicked badly in the second half because he was knackered. Bomb squad had no impact whatsoever. Jeez I hate Rassie
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@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@MN5 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I have no problem with the outcome of either captain's card. Clear difference based on the framework and mitigation.
Can you elaborate further ? How was Canes harsher than Kolisis ? ( i missed part of the latters as I was getting my third helping of bacon and eggs )
Cane was upright, with reasonable force, direct contact. No mitigation.
Kolisi had contact through the body, lowered himself a little, and the head contact was almost incidental like a whiplash.
Funny, because at the time it looked like head on head contact and worse than Cane's....
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@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@mariner4life Lineout and Scrum were massive and we conceded way fewer penalties.
Awesome Bok defence, the cards, poor goalkicking and the backline being off killed us today.
Abs 5 penalties, boks 10. Plus the 2 cards each, I guess they aren't counted on the penalties
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@mariner4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Rugby is a funny game.
We won the set piece. Had more ball, more carries, they made like 2 and a half the tackles we did. Made linebreaks. And we just couldn't win.
So often when a game goes like today’s it’s the little things that matter the most and become big things! The goal kick misses even though 2 good penalties had been kicked. The knock on by ALB even though he had made a good catch and run down the right side not long before that.
Boks unlucky to score a try down the right side too if not for a foot in touch and knock on.
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Well done the Boks. Hugely physical team.
The head contact feels completely random. Kolisi YC, Cane Red, and the 'glancing contact' on EDG is nowt. Missed the Etsebeth elbow, so who knows.Despite the adversity, we created enough to win that game. Handling was poor, and even then missing kicks cost us.
Play of the game: Kolbe knocking the ball on. I reckon we score from there - and they weren't getting a try tonight; that would have been the game.
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@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@MN5 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@NTA said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I have no problem with the outcome of either captain's card. Clear difference based on the framework and mitigation.
Can you elaborate further ? How was Canes harsher than Kolisis ? ( i missed part of the latters as I was getting my third helping of bacon and eggs )
Cane was upright, with reasonable force, direct contact. No mitigation.
Kolisi had contact through the body, lowered himself a little, and the head contact was almost incidental like a whiplash.
I mean that’s how I read it too - all season both would have been red but something changed after a week or so of the tournament and Kolisi’s had more mitigation than Cane’s.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Boks unlucky to score a try down the right side too if not for a foot in touch and knock on.
Did you see Smith dragged into the scrum that started that movmeent? Would the TMO go back for that if they scored? Ah, the big questions in life