RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina
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@Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.
Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.
Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.
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Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.
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@Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.
I also have the ABs by 12…….after 15 minutes!
Up 25 at the half, and 30+ at FT (I’m allowing for a drop-off after we empty the bench)
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Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.
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@Chris-B said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@stodders What those tables might show is that it's been quite a late decision to back the young props on the bench - Williams especially played a lot less minutes than Ofa, which you wouldn't expect if they'd been building Tamaiti to play in the play-offs.
Similarly, it looks to me that they've made a late decision to revert back to Christie.
Don't let the Hawkes posters know, all that dry powder will be consumed before the game.
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@Jailbreak7 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.
Save that until the final
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@Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.
Grey and dry as I type
11:15am
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@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.
Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.
Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.
@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.
Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship
Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.
I thought Leprechauns were Irish
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@MiketheSnow Weather forecast for today and tomorrow at Stade de France.
Tonight - wet with a bit of wind, but not too cold (take your rain coat Mike)
Tomorrow - wet, with a fair bit of wind (3x), and a lot colder (6 degrees colder)
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Our reserve halfback has played half a game of rugby. Beautiful symmetry.
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From the minutes played to date, I was a little concerned that Ardie was going to be overused. He does have the most minutes in an attritional position.
But even still, it is only 5 hours of rugby in 6 weeks
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@His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.
Reason given is it's horses for courses and he's there for his D. Can only assume Schmidt and Foster ( and poss. Ryan) see something we don't.
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Maybe the A team feel more comfortable with Christie and is experience?
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@Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.
We're playing Friday ...
Kick off in just less than 9 hours ...
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Interesting discussion this. SA have proved their team isn't impacted by players moving O/S, so is it time for us to do it too? The NH club sides have definitely come on leaps and bounds so it's hard to argue players won't get good experience slotting in up there. Sure, more players will leave, but it will also provide more opportunities for new up and comers to make their way into Super Rugby. I was always against playing players who left to go o/s but it seems a bit outdated today.
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@LagerLout said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Interesting discussion this. SA have proved their team isn't impacted by players moving O/S, so is it time for us to do it too? The NH club sides have definitely come on leaps and bounds so it's hard to argue players won't get good experience slotting in up there. Sure, more players will leave, but it will also provide more opportunities for new up and comers to make their way into Super Rugby. I was always against playing players who left to go o/s but it seems a bit outdated today.
It may be a problem for Robertson, but it's a problem for NZR to fix.
Can't dump everything into the Head Coach's lap.
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Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.
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@frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.
They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.
Agreed it wasn't a great start, but he grew into the game well. Better than Christie would've I dare say.
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@antipodean said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Agreed it wasn't a great start, but he grew into the game well. Better than Christie would've I dare say
That was the big plus for me. The way he managed his yips was impressive.
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@LagerLout Tax breaks is what the Ireland RFU use to retain their best players in the Irish provincial set up.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.
Reason given is it's horses for courses and he's there for his D. Can only assume Schmidt and Foster ( and poss. Ryan) see something we don't.
Matt the dinosaur may provide some insight here. I have a feeling it's got a lot to do with the young stallion and a mare.
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BerniesCornerreplied to LagerLout on 20 Oct 2023, 11:38 last edited by BerniesCorner 20 Oct 2023, 13:28
@LagerLout said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.
This is a great idea.
Tax breaks for top NZ sport team professionals, yes from me.
I didn't like the Silverlake dilution and perhaps this is another pathway.
Enhanced revenue for the country from seeing top players, yes.
Also everyone knows the continual shite occurring in the world. It's obvious to all the benefits to mental health and wellbeing being involved with sport including NZ rugby. Go World Cup, go All Blacks. -
Lesssssss go Black fark where is @BerniesCorner when you need him?!
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hoping its on emirates live sport..
come on the ABs!
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@bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
hoping its on emirates live sport..
come on the ABs!
Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.
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@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
hoping its on emirates live sport..
come on the ABs!
Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.
Then cover your ears for 80 mins
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@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
hoping its on emirates live sport..
come on the ABs!
Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.
Thanks mate, I am ok with the vpn on the ground but I will literally be flying during the game, I am hoping the airline has it covered!
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Four hours to kickoff. Tonight is massive.
Go Black!
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3 hrs and 16 minutes but who is sitting here counting... lol
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@Jailbreak7 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Lesssssss go Black fark where is @BerniesCorner when you need him?!
In the post right above you.
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The waiting is excruciating Go Black!!
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Slow week
About to walk into Marylebone pub
All Black cap on
COME ON ALL BLACKS -
Come on Foz you got this
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Sitting in my seat prior to take off and tv screen confirms rugby will be live…fuck yeah! Go ABs!
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Hard to know what to expect ,
a difficult arm wrestle wouldn’t surprise me, and a blow out like the France quarter in 15 wouldn’t surprise me either .
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@bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Sitting in my seat prior to take off and tv screen confirms rugby will be live…fuck yeah! Go ABs!
I like it how you're trying to make sure everyone knows we've got you to thank for making it to a semifinal, due to you buying a flight ticket for the same time.
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