RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Stargazer said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The Roigard Christie selection did not matter in the end.
Yup, Christie and Dmac never got off the bench.
Right decision too. Keep thr old heads on
Knockout games are slow games - we should know this by now. They grind rather than open up
The Irish were a bit silly when we had our yellow cards, they kept slowing the game down. There was one lineout where they fluffing around so much I wonder whether they thought their player had been carded.
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@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
No. Physically, we are in pretty good shaped compared to other sides I think.
I meant more mentally - this game against Ireland would have seen us spend a lot of emotional energy beating Ireland and also leading up to the game. We wanted it. They embarrassed us last year.
It’s like 2019. We were outstanding in the qtr final and nowhere in the semi final.
Furry muff.
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Hard luck to @The-Irishman and @leinster. Your lads are a class team. Your coach is a class act. Wasn’t your night.
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@sparky said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fuck you Bundee Aki, fuck you Bono, fuck you James Lowe, fuck you Jamie Gibson-Park.
Poor Bono, all he did was give everyone a free album and he gets lumped in with traitors.
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Rob Kearney saying if Ireland play 90% of what they are capable of , then they will beat the ABs.
Post-match, says Ireland played at less than 90% of what they are capable of.This is a bit like us AB fans. Sport is a brutal reality check and some people just can't accept their team was not as good as they thought/hoped (i.e, us in 2019)
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@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@sparky said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fuck you Bundee Aki, fuck you Bono, fuck you James Lowe, fuck you Jamie Gibson-Park.
Poor Bono, all he did was give everyone a free album and he gets lumped in with traitors.
Bono deserves all the vitriol we can muster after the last 30 years of music hes inflicted
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@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@sparky said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fuck you Bundee Aki, fuck you Bono, fuck you James Lowe, fuck you Jamie Gibson-Park.
Poor Bono, all he did was give everyone a free album and he gets lumped in with traitors.
Bono deserves all the vitriol we can muster after the last 30 years of music hes inflicted
I bet even you used to singalong with them in the 80s with The Joshua Tree before you went full music snob.
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@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Amen Danny, I have picked us ever since we knew we were getting them in this match.
We were never losing against them in this game. No matter what O’Barnes tried to hit us with, we were not losing.
I fear he will be the ref in the final (if we get there obvs…)
Grubs I am so deep down an AB man, I can never truly believe they will lose, or say it in public! It's something about being a supporter to your very core!
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@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@sparky said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fuck you Bundee Aki, fuck you Bono, fuck you James Lowe, fuck you Jamie Gibson-Park.
Poor Bono, all he did was give everyone a free album and he gets lumped in with traitors.
Bono deserves all the vitriol we can muster after the last 30 years of music hes inflicted
I bet even you used to singalong with them in the 80s with The Joshua Tree before you went full music snob.
I think I stopped at Rattle and Hum
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Nepia I thought the Irish also panicked a bit with those cross kicks when they had the man advantage in/near our 22.
There was space there but it was a bit all-or-nothing instead of just being patient.
Our defence was up for it today. They battered away and in particular our two main leaders ably assisted by the tight 5 were up for it. We just seemed more crisp in our realignment and fanning.
Sure we had lapses and the Irish attack did take their chance. But by and large our defence made them rethink their recycle strategy.
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Man our scrum and line out will monster Argentina
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not a single knock on from NZ all night 😳
Jesus that must be some sort of record, when was the last time the opposition did not get a scrum the entire match.
The keys there are pretty obvious, we won 100% of our set piece, only gave away 4 turnovers.
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Fozzie getting a bit cheeky towards the end of his reign.
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@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fozzie getting a bit cheeky towards the end of his reign.
he really is. Got to peak DGAF stage.
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@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Man our scrum and line out will monster Argentina
Ease up on your predictions….
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@Bones I have never seen POM as quiet as today, no niggle - wasn't featuring in lineouts nothing
Our pack as a whole but especially the loosies completely dominated and shut him out.
A game where he should have stood up he stepped back i feel -
Farrell is all class
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Nepia I thought the Irish also panicked a bit with those cross kicks when they had the man advantage in/near our 22.
There was space there but it was a bit all-or-nothing instead of just being patient.
As the game wore on and they couldn't overtake us, they reverted more and more to old type; attack became more narrow, more predictable and less dynamic.
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@kidcalder said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones I have never seen POM as quiet as today, no niggle - wasn't featuring in lineouts nothing
Our pack as a whole but especially the loosies completely dominated and shut him out.
A game where he should have stood up he stepped back i feelDagg was pretty scathing post-game of POM’s game today.
I know there is this desire to get stuck in, but the way that I think about it is that it was going to take a massive effort against the odds to get the win. We had to really front up or else they would’ve rolled over the top with their second line play.
It was awesome to watch and whilst the heart and nerves were getting a real work out, I’ll take that sort of match every single time.
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not a single knock on from NZ all night 😳
Knock ons were 7-2 (Smith & LF)
Interestingly we lost most of the general play stats (various carry, tackle & ruck stats) but we won the kicking metres: 696m v 878m. It's an area the AB's have been poor at recently
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@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Nepia I thought the Irish also panicked a bit with those cross kicks when they had the man advantage in/near our 22.
There was space there but it was a bit all-or-nothing instead of just being patient.
As the game wore on and they couldn't overtake us, they reverted more and more to old type; attack became more narrow, more predictable and less dynamic.
The game was pretty fast too, they don't have the fitness the abs do, which is amazing that is still the case
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@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Smith should not have played at it to be fair.
I think that Smith was trying to prevent the pass in his direction and force the Irish player to carry. Still a poor TMO decision as we never saw whether the ball went forward/back/sideways. Spidercam?
It doesn't matter now...
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@Duluth said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not a single knock on from NZ all night 😳
Knock ons were 7-2 (Smith & LF)
Interestingly we lost most of the general play stats (various carry, tackle & ruck stats) but we won the kicking metres: 696m v 878m. It's an area the AB's have been poor at recently
Considering we kicked it 32 times we averaged 27m per kick. Ireland kicked 19 times at 36m per kick. Admittedly we did a few nice chip kicks that did work. It's our defensive bombs which are just fucken terrible.
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The contestables were a lot better today. It's interesting because we haven't been strong on that stat recently
If anyone is interested
BB - 336m (12 kicks @28)
RM - 194m (8 kicks @24)
AS - 131m (6 kicks @22)
JB - 77m (4 kicks @19)Plus Will Jordan had two large kicks
Most metres from an Irish player was Lowe with 177m closely followed by Keenan with 176m
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Haven't read whole thread - sure someone else will have mentioned it.. but how good were the 3 big hits from ALB when he cam on late?
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Got a question people. Who do I send account to for the heart problems I think I will develop after that game? Think I will need medication to settle it back down!
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Haven’t read the thread.
Just back from the match. Hope you all enjoyed it as much as we did.
From where we were sitting ABs’ big dogs (Cane, Savea, BBR, Smith, RM & no 1 Barrett) all lifted to an intensity a fairly obviously tired Irish team couldn’t match.
You were noticeably faster to the breakdown and really slowed their ruck speed.
You kicked much better (apart from one truly dogshit clearance by Barrett major about 5 before the end.
And you dominated their lineout.
On top of all that, Barnes finally started penalizing porter for his bullshit - though there were at least 2 scrums where Barnes let him get away with worse.
On that performance, even a team without French doors for props will struggle to beat you.
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@Mattasaurus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Haven't read whole thread - sure someone else will have mentioned it.. but how good were the 3 big hits from ALB when he cam on late?
The one on the AB’s left hand touch line around the 22 was huge. ABs got a lot more out of their bench than the Irish
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What can I say except well done New Zealand.
My heart goes out to our wonderful Ireland team but they didn’t have enough against a simply superlative NZ team.
Congrats guys.
That’s classy. As many, many of your countrymen were tonight.
You’ve every reason to be proud of this team. They showed a helluva lot of heart fighting back into the game. But the forces of darkness ripping your heart out of your chest is a cruel but crucial part of the rugby gods’ plan.
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@Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Got a question people. Who do I send account to for the heart problems I think I will develop after that game? Think I will need medication to settle it back down!
You just said that all the people who thought the All Backs would lose, or something to that effect (negative) should get stuffed, so I'm just wondering why you had heart problems? It was a sure thing, right 😁?
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@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Nepia I thought the Irish also panicked a bit with those cross kicks when they had the man advantage in/near our 22.
There was space there but it was a bit all-or-nothing instead of just being patient.
As the game wore on and they couldn't overtake us, they reverted more and more to old type; attack became more narrow, more predictable and less dynamic.
The game was pretty fast too, they don't have the fitness the abs do, which is amazing that is still the case
I think they became increasingly desperate that their systems hadn't broken us down. Then they had no real plan B
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Been a great 24hrs. Labour smashed in the election, ABs win a knockout game in legendary fashion, and I’m sitting here waiting for Kylie Minogue to call because I’m clearly getting everything I want.
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@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Been a great 24hrs. Labour smashed in the election, ABs win a knockout game in legendary fashion, and I’m sitting here waiting for Kylie Minogue to call because I’m clearly getting everything I want.
If you are getting everything you want you might aim a bit higher than Kylie, but I guess we all have our weak spots.
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@Toddy said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Hope Cane walked up to POM afterwards and just shook his hand and said good game. What an epic performance from the captain. Not only was his rugby outstanding but his captaincy and keeping the team calm in the first half was great.
We never got to get Gregan back for his four more years carry on. But Cane won't mind POM's sledge as much now...
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Could our weaker pool games actually have been an advantage?
https://newsrnd.com/sports/2023-10-13-rugby-world-cup--ireland-and-the-spectre-of-quarter-finals-lost.BJgG0NILW6.htmlAnd is Lomax our quiet achiever? I still want Sami, Telea and Roigard back, arguably we just beat the world's number 1 side without our best 23 AND two yellow cards.
While Ireland perhaps deserve a thread of their own for record QF exits? -
I don’t even understand the sledge - who the fuck wouldn’t want to be called a poor man’s McCaw??!!!
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Fuck me - those sorts of games are not good for you - especially in the early morning!
Massive effort by both teams.
Last few minutes were interesting - Ireland attacking very conservatively because they couldn't afford a mistake - us defending very conservatively - because we couldn't afford a mistake either.
Commiserations to the Irish supporters.
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