RWC Week 5: France v Italy
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For the good of the game we have to hope England progress
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
For the good of the game we have to hope England progress
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@Bones said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@PecoTrain dollars to donuts that Carley, Dickson, Pearce and Jonkers will all be involved in finals rugby.
Well France with the crowd behind them playing unlimited free penalties from the ref isn't beatable. In my humble opinion...
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
Yeah, low bar, and I still don't like his style . He often coaches one side and refs the other. I was at Cardiff and he is the reason that I haven't attended a live RWC match since. Previously I travelled the world going to RWC and tests. I'm unlikely to forgive him for destroying my faith in rugby as a fair contest, or the officials to 100% of the time conduct it as such. IIRC France gave away 2 penalties, that is unheard of and many of the infringements were very clear from the stands.
I still follow rugby obviously, it is in my blood, but cricket (test mostly) has exceeded it as my sporting passion. The advances in tech, and the evolution of the rules to incorporate that, has taken some of the officiating anomalies out of the contest. It has given the power back to the players, where it should be. Tennis has done the same, and even league has a captain's challenge and better use of TMO.
That should be in the "rugby in general" probably, but it is a reply to a post here, so...
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Ouch
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
his communication is very clear and doesn't seem to get rattled often, but in 2007 he really should have gone to Refsavers.
That incident, along with underarm, is the Double Penetration with no lube in the Niu Zulland Sporting Book Of Grudges.
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France 🤣
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
his communication is very clear and doesn't seem to get rattled often, but in 2007 he really should have gone to Refsavers.
That incident, along with underarm, is the Double Penetration with no lube in the Niu Zulland Sporting Book Of Grudges.
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France 🤣
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
If there was no hope at all one questions the tactical decision made to bowl it underarm. And I believe/recall he needed a 6 to even tie?
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
If there was no hope at all one questions the tactical decision made to bowl it underarm. And I believe/recall he needed a 6 to even tie?
Yep. It’s embarrassing that people were as pissed off as they were and even more so that it’s still talked about today.
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France
Seriously? We fucked up their shit no end for the entire match, but his inexperience and objective bias screwed us. And it wasn't just the forward pass.
He cost us over 20 points and we lost by two.
All Black haters gunna hate though.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
If there was no hope at all one questions the tactical decision made to bowl it underarm. And I believe/recall he needed a 6 to even tie?
Yep. It’s embarrassing that people were as pissed off as they were and even more so that it’s still talked about today.
Nup. Still illustrative of the gutlessness of the Australian "sportsman".
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@Bones i just never watch Italy
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Bones i just never watch Italy
Pretty hard to improve if you never watch them I guess eh.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
his communication is very clear and doesn't seem to get rattled often, but in 2007 he really should have gone to Refsavers.
That incident, along with underarm, is the Double Penetration with no lube in the Niu Zulland Sporting Book Of Grudges.
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France 🤣
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
Don't forget Greg Chappell disputing that Martin Sneddon had caught him out during the Australian innings.
If you want to be really picky, Hadlees inability to convince the umpires to give any LBW decision unless it was a Chappell bowling outside leg is probably up there as well.
All in one game where teh underarm incident was just the icing on the final ball.
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@booboo said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France
Seriously? We fucked up their shit no end for the entire match, but his inexperience and objective bias screwed us. And it wasn't just the forward pass.
He cost us over 20 points and we lost by two.
All Black haters gunna hate though.
But it also taught McCaw and the All Blacks that they had to take the ref out of the game as much as possible and that likely resulted in many of the records set over the remainder of McCaws career. Would you re-write the 2007 RWC if it resulted in a very different 8 years post-RWC 2007?
Maybe it made Wayne Barnes a better ref as well - while he doesn't get everything right, he will often apologise or explain if he thinks he has made a mistake and he has at least a "feel" for the game compared to his English compatriots.
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I don't consider being genial while making error after error constitutes a good referee.
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