RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay
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More questions than answers
Some tough ones too
NZ could fall into the same trap Scotland and England have fallen into, primarily the side is more balanced and more dangerous without their RWC captain
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
More questions than answers
Some tough ones too
NZ could fall into the same trap Scotland and England have fallen into, primarily the side is more balanced and more dangerous without their RWC captain
Well spotted Mike.
I agree, thought we missed Ardie's control last night, not sure they will start Cane from the bench though. I'm just not convinced by our loose forward balance, it's much better with Frizz but the starting 7 is still a conundrum. -
Firstly Uruguay. Unlike Italy who were hopeless and uninterested, Uruguay gave it their all but were just outclassed.
NZ were great in all facets. If we had Hansen or Henry in charge I’d be confident but you never know which side will turn up under foster. We don’t be ¼ final easy beats though. Roigard is the most promising 9 since, well, Aaron Smith.
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
No way foster will drop cane now
I can't see it either, but that may be his and NZ's undoing
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Hopefully we have learnt since the last RWC.
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@Jailbreak7 said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
More questions than answers
Some tough ones too
NZ could fall into the same trap Scotland and England have fallen into, primarily the side is more balanced and more dangerous without their RWC captain
Well spotted Mike.
I agree, thought we missed Ardie's control last night, not sure they will start Cane from the bench though. I'm just not convinced by our loose forward balance, it's much better with Frizz but the starting 7 is still a conundrum.Whilst our results have been up and down, we tend to play better or more cohesively with both Scooter and Ardie in our starting lineup.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
No way foster will drop cane now
I can't see it either, but that may be his and NZ's undoing
He's not the only one, cane had 7 votes for this match here, and I have no idea why.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
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I feel something stirring within. A spark of confidence for the QF. Bench will be key and I think Foster will go for CR, DMac and LF (why else would he put Leicester at 12, for the first time in his life yesterday?)
We’re not going to win a tight match with ALB coming on to change things.
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@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
I think the discussion is more about DMac replacing Beauden at 15.
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@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
What the fuck does DMac get up to after hours ? I’m quite disturbed reading this and not sure I want a guy like this representing the All Blacks.
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For all that Jacobson got a hard time - I thought he was a bit poor with two turnovers and one penalty conceded - he was also the leading metre maker in the forwards (42) with the second most carries (11), 10 passes (highest in forwards), and a try assist. He had one clean break (equal first for forwards), beat one defender, and had two offloads (equal highest in the team). He made 8 tackles and missed none. Not a bad night's work.
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@gt12 said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
For all that Jacobson got a hard time - I thought he was a bit poor with two turnovers and one penalty conceded - he was also the leading metre maker in the forwards (42) with the second most carries (11), 10 passes (highest in forwards), and a try assist. He had one clean break (equal first for forwards), beat one defender, and had two offloads (equal highest in the team). He made 8 tackles and missed none. Not a bad night's work.
So maybe I just look for the highlights, and note the mistakes ...
Suppose that's why I'm not a professional coach ....
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@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
Precious Richie is not threatened so don't worry about a Cantab' losing their place.
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@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
George Bridge says hold his beer, while he tries not to catch the ball.
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With Dmac and Mo'unga, the dual playmaker system seems to work out differently to Mo'unga and Barrett.
Vs Uruguay
Richie Mo'unga played 79% of the minutes that Dmac played (63/80).
He kicked 5 times, Dmac 6 (83%)
He passed 19 times, Dmac 26 (73%)
He ran 9 times, Dmac 15 (60%)In comparison, Mo'unga actually dominates touches when he and Barrett play together.
Vs Italy
Richie Mo'unga played 80% of the minutes that Barrett played (64/80).
He kicked 7 times, Beauden 6 (116%)
He passed 15 times, Beauden 12 (125%)
He ran 4 times, Beauden 8 (50%)It's a reasonably similar picture for the France game, although they both played the 80 and Barrett dominated the kicking (Mo'unga: 21 passes, 10 runs, 7 kicks vs Barrett: 12 passes, 18 runs, 18 kicks).
I'm not sure what all this means, I'm just bored.
Maybe Barrett just isn't getting involved enough, but I found it interesting that the dual playmaker seemed to be working better when Dmac is on. It might be a better mix as it may allow Mo'unga to be more dangerous and play wider with fewer touches.
For what it is worth, in the Argentina game early in the year, Dmac dominated in comparison to Barrett with 130% more minutes (80 vs 61) but 200% more passes (24 vs 12), and 90% runs. I can't get KFH stats for that game.
