RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay
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[edit]Moved from the Italy match thread[/edit]
speaking of Jordie, will be interesting to see what they do this weekend, cos I think we pretty much need to roll out the same starting 15 to get some combos going with the injury and suspension disruptions we have had.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
speaking of Jordie, will be interesting to see what they do this weekend, cos I think we pretty much need to roll out the same starting 15 to get some combos going with the injury and suspension disruptions we have had.
i agree...but the real pessimist in me cant help wonder if Fozzie will just feel that game was justification all is right and so roll out a full B team, 10 changes kind of thing...BB and savea still start
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Gotta be A team although I'd put Ardie on the bench since he's played such heavy minutes all year, Canes and ABs.
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I think it should be the same side that played Italy, but I wonder if Fozzie needs to justify his 5 wings and role out LF and CC. Also be tough on Blackadder to travel and not play any minutes.
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@chimoaus said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I think it should be the same side that played Italy, but I wonder if Fozzie needs to justify his 5 wings and role out LF and CC. Also be tough on Blackadder to travel and not play any minutes.
Na, if he plays he’ll lose his Charlie Ngatai like aura.
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i think we SHOULD give the rest of the squad a run out....and Uruguay have shown a little fight...so this might be closer than Italy...but still a comfortable win
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Top team with early subs.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Top team with early subs.
Agree with this, though I’d happily drop Smith completely and give Roigard 80mins
I just don’t want to see any minutes for the guys who have no shot at making the QF 23 - for me that’s Vaa’i, Christie and Havili at the minimum
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@voodoo said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Top team with early subs.
Agree with this, though I’d happily drop Smith completely and give Roigard 80mins
I just don’t want to see any minutes for the guys who have no shot at making the QF 23 - for me that’s Vaa’i, Christie and Havili at the minimum
For Foster that’s his version of the bomb squad off the bench.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@voodoo said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Top team with early subs.
Agree with this, though I’d happily drop Smith completely and give Roigard 80mins
I just don’t want to see any minutes for the guys who have no shot at making the QF 23 - for me that’s Vaa’i, Christie and Havili at the minimum
For Foster that’s his version of the bomb squad off the bench.
I just threw up a little in my mouth
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With a few guys having been out with injuries, I hope to see the top side start, perhaps with Savea and Smith given a rest.
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Pretty difficult to tell who they will pick for this, as it may depend on what they are doing with each player off the field to keep them match fit and ready for the quarter. All we want is the W, bonus point and no injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if we are a bit flat for this TBH with a view to just doing enough.
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@No-Quarter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I wouldn't be surprised if we are a bit flat for this TBH with a view to just doing enough.
Get thru, zero injuries, rest the players that need a rest, more game time for key replacements (DMac, Roigard, Sami T, poss. ALB) will do me.
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I want to see big Leicester get a run in order to provide a point of difference off the bench for the QF; roll the dice and replace ALB.
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@scribe said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I want to see big Leicester get a run in order to provide a point of difference off the bench for the QF; roll the dice and replace ALB.
Be a big call to have him cover 12 in a QF though
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Surely now is the match to give the squad guys a run, the risk of injury is bad enough, but in modern rugby the risk of suspension is just as high. We can't risk that in a nothing game. I doubt we will learn much from this game anyway so get the win get the BP then move on.
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@No-Quarter said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
All we want is the W, bonus point and no injuries.
And no cards ...
Big ask ...
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Cane, Lomax and De Groot to start. Could rest Ardie. Backs the same unless some experimentation on wing.
Ofa and Nepo to bench. Chance to get Blackadder into 23. Maybe give Sami a run.
Otherwise don’t change a winning team.
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@scribe said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@voodoo other teams in the overall mix take that risk.
Ardie can cover it
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@mooshld said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
Surely now is the match to give the squad guys a run, the risk of injury is bad enough, but in modern rugby the risk of suspension is just as high. We can't risk that in a nothing game. I doubt we will learn much from this game anyway so get the win get the BP then move on.
So the "A" side would have played 1 test in 6-7 weeks by the QF. When cohesion has been one of the several glaring issues of Fosters reign, you want to see more changes in a side that has barely played? Injuries will happen. What's worse, lack of playing time or risk of injury?
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Yup I’m going for top team, build it up. No point planning beyond 1/4s, one game at a time
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@Machpants yep, gotta look at it like there are only 2 games left, no point leaving anything in the tank for a semi final if you dont get there.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Machpants yep, gotta look at it like there are only 2 games left, no point leaving anything in the tank for a semi final if you dont get there.
i admit im more worried about people picking up niggles in this game and not being available for the QF and having to play guys who are undercooked
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Honestly, let's keep the momentum going. These guys shouldn't need a rest, the majority of them have only played 3-4 games in the last 8 weeks.
A few guys do need games though, so I'd go with:
- Williams
- Taukei'aho
- Lomax
- Whitelock
- S Barrett
- Frizell
- Cane
- Savea
- Smith
- Mo'unga
- Telea
- J Barrett
- Ioane
- Jordan
- B Barrett
- Coles
- Tu'ungafasi
- Newell
- Retallick
- Blackadder
- Christie
- McKenzie
- Fainga'anuku
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@foobaNZ said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@frugby Like your starting team except Ardie should get a breather (bench is fine).
Also, I'd be annoyed if Christie is in the 23. His time is gone. Roigard please.
I know... but Christie has played about 20 minutes in the last two months, so does need some minutes in the legs should injury strike. I'm less worried about that in other positions, because most of the players have had the cobwebs blown out.
I mean, we could start Roigard of course, with red on the bench.
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@frugby I dunno about that reasoning.
If Smith goes down it's a huge blow but I'd rather Roigard be getting minutes now if that scenario were to occur. The more time Roigard has the better.
If we lose Roigard, well, Christie to the bench anyway and Aaron has to try play 80.
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This will be the first official test between NZ and Uruguay. They did play in 1976 as part of the tour of Argentina.
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@Stargazer is that true? we've ended up taking someone to the world cup that hasn't played a test for nearly 2 years?
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@Kiwiwomble Blackadder's last test was on 13 November 2021 against Ireland. He started at 6 in that game.
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer is that true? we've ended up taking someone to the world cup that hasn't played a test for nearly 2 years?
Powder…
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@voodoo thats not powder...thats dust
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
With Jesus playing, 70+ only scoreline that could possibly happen
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@bayimports said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
With Jesus playing, 70+ only scoreline that could possibly happen
I hear he’s bulked up to 130kg at about 5% body fat while he’s been on the sidelines.
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I think starting players that might be sore and get benefit from a break, will get a rest ,
but otherwise we might see a fairly strong side , can see the benefit of giving guys maximum minutes who they plan to use from the bench.
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