RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland
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@Halfout said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
To be honest I think the concern is that a 7:1 split will encourage bigger NFL style forwards who will blow themselves out in 45/50 minutes, leading to bigger collisions and more head injuries, rather than SA not playing fair. I think it’s a justifiable concern at a time when the health of players and the potential financial impact for World Rugby and individual Unions are major worries.
Wait a minute. Aren't SA gambling on getting through the game without a back even getting injured? Less time on the field should reduce injuries to forwards too.
Maybe they've got it right in terms of safety?
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
I’m picking Ireland. Reckon for once they will be the business at the RWC. If Ireland man up in the forwards and diffuse the bombs what else do SA have to offer?
A pact.
Amazingly advanced communication devices.
Incredibly tolerant and forgiving fanbase.
Spectators high on participation.One of the above might not be accurate.
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@Bones this is a brilliant point re injury. Fresh players get injured less.
My objection isn’t 7-1 vs 6-2 or specifically size of players, It’s the number of subs full stop - nothing to do with injury, merely because rugby is interesting when players get tired.
Haven’t seen it but sure it’s been discussed, Ross Tucker’s podcast and views on the injury side of this question is great.
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Really don’t know how this will go. The springboks have been trying to play a more high tempo game. Nienaber emphasized this after the last game. Think they will try the bludgeon helter skelter disruptive approach. And I don’t think SA are confident of a win at all. But Ireland are. Not sure that’s good for Ireland. But I would prefer to play France anyway.
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You'd prefer to play France in a home tournament over a badly coached AB's team? Really?
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@The-Irishman yes. Don’t think the ABs can be crap for much longer… should start to rebound. Also think France are in decline
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@The-Irishman Ireland don't care who they play in the QF. Their battle will be in their heads.
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@reprobate said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@game_film that interview is posted on another thread. it was very refreshing to hear someone say something sensible about dealing with rush defence finally, just a shame it wasn't a NZer.
we still seem to think the best way to deal with it is a shitload of short kicks, combined with getting caught behind the advantage line. which is a particular fucking travesty when we have had the world's best passing halfback in the side for about a decade.I did notice us attacking the blind a lot more this year, one way to beat the rush defense is to avoid it I guess.
And for the 7-1 Are forwards really that tired after 40 minutes anyway? Would have thought everyone is pretty fit nowadays.
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@Darren said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@reprobate said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@game_film that interview is posted on another thread. it was very refreshing to hear someone say something sensible about dealing with rush defence finally, just a shame it wasn't a NZer.
we still seem to think the best way to deal with it is a shitload of short kicks, combined with getting caught behind the advantage line. which is a particular fucking travesty when we have had the world's best passing halfback in the side for about a decade.I did notice us attacking the blind a lot more this year, one way to beat the rush defense is to avoid it I guess.
And for the 7-1 Are forwards really that tired after 40 minutes anyway? Would have thought everyone is pretty fit nowadays.
Maybe ask the AB pack that played at Twickenham?
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@W32 said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@The-Irishman yes. Don’t think the ABs can be crap for much longer… should start to rebound.
I've no doubt Foster is up to this challenge. Loves to prove the doubters wrong.
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@Smuts said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@Darren said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@reprobate said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@game_film that interview is posted on another thread. it was very refreshing to hear someone say something sensible about dealing with rush defence finally, just a shame it wasn't a NZer.
we still seem to think the best way to deal with it is a shitload of short kicks, combined with getting caught behind the advantage line. which is a particular fucking travesty when we have had the world's best passing halfback in the side for about a decade.I did notice us attacking the blind a lot more this year, one way to beat the rush defense is to avoid it I guess.
And for the 7-1 Are forwards really that tired after 40 minutes anyway? Would have thought everyone is pretty fit nowadays.
Maybe ask the AB pack that played at Twickenham?
I think that game was well over before subs came on
And in the Auckland game, the AB's really won that in the first 15 minutes -
What’s giving me some optimism as an Irish fan is the fact that the SA management seem to be reacting to Ireland in terms of tactics and selection. They really seem to be talking themselves up, which is something that generally you’d expect the lesser team to be doing. Dare I say it, but they sound and are acting like we used to sound and act when we knew that we were the underdogs. Might as well enjoy it while we can.
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@Darren said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@reprobate said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@game_film that interview is posted on another thread. it was very refreshing to hear someone say something sensible about dealing with rush defence finally, just a shame it wasn't a NZer.
we still seem to think the best way to deal with it is a shitload of short kicks, combined with getting caught behind the advantage line. which is a particular fucking travesty when we have had the world's best passing halfback in the side for about a decade.I did notice us attacking the blind a lot more this year, one way to beat the rush defense is to avoid it I guess.
And for the 7-1 Are forwards really that tired after 40 minutes anyway? Would have thought everyone is pretty fit nowadays.
Most of the Bok props aren't.
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@Halfout said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
What’s giving me some optimism as an Irish fan is the fact that the SA management seem to be reacting to Ireland in terms of tactics and selection. They really seem to be talking themselves up, which is something that generally you’d expect the lesser team to be doing. Dare I say it, but they sound and are acting like we used to sound and act when we knew that we were the underdogs. Might as well enjoy it while we can.
Nah they are not talking themselves up, they are 100% confident in the belief in what they are doing and how they plan to execute it. I never remember an Ireland team in the past talking themselves up either to be honest, not sure were that is coming from. I have no doubt the South Africans believe they are the better team and are relishing showing that off in this match.
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@Darren said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@reprobate said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@game_film that interview is posted on another thread. it was very refreshing to hear someone say something sensible about dealing with rush defence finally, just a shame it wasn't a NZer.
we still seem to think the best way to deal with it is a shitload of short kicks, combined with getting caught behind the advantage line. which is a particular fucking travesty when we have had the world's best passing halfback in the side for about a decade.I did notice us attacking the blind a lot more this year, one way to beat the rush defense is to avoid it I guess.
And for the 7-1 Are forwards really that tired after 40 minutes anyway? Would have thought everyone is pretty fit nowadays.
Maximise optimal performance. And many of your forwards look like they prefer weights to cardio
