EPL 2023/2024
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2023/2024:
Struggling to get into football this early, but saw a bit this avo. Brentford / Spurs a cracking match and I think both will be happy with a point. Away to Brentford is not easy as is hosting Spurs.
Liverpool / Chelsea both look like top 4 teams .... but neither look close to Citeh. Very very very early days, but it's hard to go past City already.
Surely Newcastle must be in the mix, no?
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@Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:
@MajorRage said in EPL 2023/2024:
Struggling to get into football this early, but saw a bit this avo. Brentford / Spurs a cracking match and I think both will be happy with a point. Away to Brentford is not easy as is hosting Spurs.
Liverpool / Chelsea both look like top 4 teams .... but neither look close to Citeh. Very very very early days, but it's hard to go past City already.
Surely Newcastle must be in the mix, no?
They already are top 4 aren't they?
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@Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:
@MajorRage said in EPL 2023/2024:
Struggling to get into football this early, but saw a bit this avo. Brentford / Spurs a cracking match and I think both will be happy with a point. Away to Brentford is not easy as is hosting Spurs.
Liverpool / Chelsea both look like top 4 teams .... but neither look close to Citeh. Very very very early days, but it's hard to go past City already.
Surely Newcastle must be in the mix, no?
Same reason why Ireland at 5/1 for RWC despite being the highest ranked team with two lower ranked teams with stronger odds.
Experience counts.
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@Billy-Tell Most pundits have them outside the top 4, based on the fact that Chelsea and Liverpool will improve and that Newcastle's Champions League adventure will distract them.
I reckon the top 10 is pretty much set in stone.
City, Arse, ManU, Liverpool, Newcastle, Chelsea, Spurs, Brighton, Villa, Brentford (maybe not Hounslow Town and not in that order) with the other 10 all potentially getting sucked into a relegation dogfight. -
@dogmeat I agree with 9 of those but dont think Villa escape the bottom ten - bit of a lottery for me who joins this lot though
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Thoughts on the non-penalty for Wolves? United looked so listless in midfield, Wolves kept going straight through the middle of them.
Newcastle looking good again and with more depth in their attacking areas, they also need a quality left back. With both Wilson and Izak, they look much better set up for success than Chelsea who have lost Nkunku for a while.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
Thoughts on the non-penalty for Wolves? United looked so listless in midfield, Wolves kept going straight through the middle of them.
Newcastle looking good again and with more depth in their attacking areas, they also need a quality left back. With both Wilson and Izak, they look much better set up for success than Chelsea who have lost Nkunku for a while.
I'm hoping Utd stay listless, at least for one more week.... 😉
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@bayimports Villa will, the game against Newcastle wasn't as bad as the score suggested, and they have a strong squad.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
Thoughts on the non-penalty for Wolves? United looked so listless in midfield, Wolves kept going straight through the middle of them.
Newcastle looking good again and with more depth in their attacking areas, they also need a quality left back. With both Wilson and Izak, they look much better set up for success than Chelsea who have lost Nkunku for a while.
I'm not fully up to speed on all the intricacies around penalty - I know it's essentially a foul in the penalty box - but you'll often hear the commentators say clear fouls are not given as penalties as there is "not enough there".
In this case, he certainly clatters in to him and was unlikely to get the balll, but he was going for it and it had no effect on the movement.
Going on past cases, I fully expected it to be given.
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@canefan said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
Super sub Chris Wood with an 89th-minute winner for Forest over Sheffield United.
Is he on loan from Newcastle or did he move permanently?
I think he is now permanent. Once Isak signed for Newcastle his opportunities were always going to be limited.
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@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
@canefan said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
Super sub Chris Wood with an 89th-minute winner for Forest over Sheffield United.
Is he on loan from Newcastle or did he move permanently?
I think he is now permanent. Once Isak signed for Newcastle his opportunities were always going to be limited.
I hope he didn't have to take a pay cut. Newcastle probably had to part pay his wages...
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lol Wood comes on in the 83rd minute scores in the 89th and gets BBC player of the match...glad i didn't watch that game
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Foden and Alvarez are great to watch play. Walker I like when he’s not consigned to pure back.
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@KiwiMurph Just the arrogant English media and public who dismiss anything from outside the top 5 leagues.
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@African-Monkey said in EPL 2023/2024:
@KiwiMurph Just the arrogant English media and public who dismiss anything from outside the top 5 leagues.
What?
Many reasons to call the Poms arrogant but this ain’t one of them. Their league is proper top tier, outsiders with reputations built coaching in 2nd / 3rd tier leagues are, rightly, treated with skepticism.
People who are successful are embraced.
No different to any sport anywhere on the planet.
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@MajorRage I get that, but Ange got dismissed completely just because of where he came from, where as Conte and Mourinho were seen as both great appointments despite the fact that their defensive style of management had gone completely out of date and was never gonna work in England anymore, but due to their success years and years ago, people saw them as great appointments at the time.
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Mourinho great appointment is a huge history rewrite. He was panned from the start ( for spurs and Man U). Conte was more about if he could work with Levy.
I think history of ppl failing to take the big club step up brings the skepticism, not arrogance. Those that succeed (few n far between) are embraced.
Media in this country are, collectively, a complete bunch of fluffybunnies. But football wise, they are quite smart. There are genuinely only 5-6 managers globally who could win the PL.
