EPL 2023/2024
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@Billy-Tell Most pundits have them outside the top 4, based on the fact that Chelsea and Liverpool will improve and that Newcastle's Champions League adventure will distract them.
I reckon the top 10 is pretty much set in stone.
City, Arse, ManU, Liverpool, Newcastle, Chelsea, Spurs, Brighton, Villa, Brentford (maybe not Hounslow Town and not in that order) with the other 10 all potentially getting sucked into a relegation dogfight. -
Thoughts on the non-penalty for Wolves? United looked so listless in midfield, Wolves kept going straight through the middle of them.
Newcastle looking good again and with more depth in their attacking areas, they also need a quality left back. With both Wilson and Izak, they look much better set up for success than Chelsea who have lost Nkunku for a while.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
Thoughts on the non-penalty for Wolves? United looked so listless in midfield, Wolves kept going straight through the middle of them.
Newcastle looking good again and with more depth in their attacking areas, they also need a quality left back. With both Wilson and Izak, they look much better set up for success than Chelsea who have lost Nkunku for a while.
I'm hoping Utd stay listless, at least for one more week.... 😉
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@bayimports Villa will, the game against Newcastle wasn't as bad as the score suggested, and they have a strong squad.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
Thoughts on the non-penalty for Wolves? United looked so listless in midfield, Wolves kept going straight through the middle of them.
Newcastle looking good again and with more depth in their attacking areas, they also need a quality left back. With both Wilson and Izak, they look much better set up for success than Chelsea who have lost Nkunku for a while.
I'm not fully up to speed on all the intricacies around penalty - I know it's essentially a foul in the penalty box - but you'll often hear the commentators say clear fouls are not given as penalties as there is "not enough there".
In this case, he certainly clatters in to him and was unlikely to get the balll, but he was going for it and it had no effect on the movement.
Going on past cases, I fully expected it to be given.
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@canefan said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
Super sub Chris Wood with an 89th-minute winner for Forest over Sheffield United.
Is he on loan from Newcastle or did he move permanently?
I think he is now permanent. Once Isak signed for Newcastle his opportunities were always going to be limited.
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@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
@canefan said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
Super sub Chris Wood with an 89th-minute winner for Forest over Sheffield United.
Is he on loan from Newcastle or did he move permanently?
I think he is now permanent. Once Isak signed for Newcastle his opportunities were always going to be limited.
I hope he didn't have to take a pay cut. Newcastle probably had to part pay his wages...
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lol Wood comes on in the 83rd minute scores in the 89th and gets BBC player of the match...glad i didn't watch that game
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Foden and Alvarez are great to watch play. Walker I like when he’s not consigned to pure back.
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@KiwiMurph Just the arrogant English media and public who dismiss anything from outside the top 5 leagues.
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@African-Monkey said in EPL 2023/2024:
@KiwiMurph Just the arrogant English media and public who dismiss anything from outside the top 5 leagues.
What?
Many reasons to call the Poms arrogant but this ain’t one of them. Their league is proper top tier, outsiders with reputations built coaching in 2nd / 3rd tier leagues are, rightly, treated with skepticism.
People who are successful are embraced.
No different to any sport anywhere on the planet.
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@MajorRage I get that, but Ange got dismissed completely just because of where he came from, where as Conte and Mourinho were seen as both great appointments despite the fact that their defensive style of management had gone completely out of date and was never gonna work in England anymore, but due to their success years and years ago, people saw them as great appointments at the time.
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Mourinho great appointment is a huge history rewrite. He was panned from the start ( for spurs and Man U). Conte was more about if he could work with Levy.
I think history of ppl failing to take the big club step up brings the skepticism, not arrogance. Those that succeed (few n far between) are embraced.
Media in this country are, collectively, a complete bunch of fluffybunnies. But football wise, they are quite smart. There are genuinely only 5-6 managers globally who could win the PL.
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Levy has a history of poor manager selections, not to mention some pretty poor performance in the transfer market over the years. Spurs fans were excited over the high profile appointments of Mourinho and Conte because it felt like an expression of intent from the owners. But in both cases they expected more player spending than Daniel Levy was willing to make, and their negative tactics did not please the fans. Both managers ultimately lost the dressing room because of their attitudes. If I think back to the best performing Spurs head coaches in the last 20 years, they would be Martin Jol, Harry Redknapp, Mauricio Pochettino. None of those men came in with fanfare from the media, they won the fans over with their play. Ange has a typically low key Antipodean style persona, the players look to be enjoying his attacking style and will appreciate the relative lack of mind games
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Can add anything to the discussion of coaches due to my recent return to football. Have some concerns about Arsenal and still see Man City the team to beat although Chelsea with their new additions, including Caicedo, might prove a hand full as the season progresses.
Not sure Edu and Arteta are the cats meow. Concerned about their acquisitions including Jorginho, Viera and Havertz. While Jorginho played a role when Partey was out you don't won't to run him out there when you play Man City. Same with Viera.
Arsenal are pretty predictable as they like to play through Saka and Martinelli and smart teams allow this then surround them with 3 players and they have to pass back into the midfield.
We really don't have the ability to attack up through the middle of the park. That's why I think they need need another more attacking central midfielder.
Timber looked the goods and is a huge loss. One good recruitment.
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