Ashes 2023
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@nzzp said in Ashes 2023:
@Machpants said in Ashes 2023:
I'm not bitter, I just hate cheats.
So, with absolutism you'd include Martin Crowe and Chris Pringle on your hate list? They took a bottle cap on the field to scratch the ball up
As well as Atherton of course, with the dirt in the pocket.
100% it's been par for the course in professional cricket for ever. Wasim and Waqar wouldn't have the records they have without a bit (a lot) of tampering that's for sure, and they are renowned as all time greats. You're going to pretty much rule out the majority of players gone by with that stance.
That 'sandpaper gate' appears to have put a stop to it though, reverse swing certainly doesn't seem as prevalent as it was does it?
Edit - snap, read your next post re: reverse swing
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@No-Quarter said in Ashes 2023:
@nzzp said in Ashes 2023:
@Machpants said in Ashes 2023:
I'm not bitter, I just hate cheats.
So, with absolutism you'd include Martin Crowe and Chris Pringle on your hate list? They took a bottle cap on the field to scratch the ball up
As well as Atherton of course, with the dirt in the pocket.
100% it's been par for the course in professional cricket for ever. Wasim and Waqar wouldn't have the records they have without a bit (a lot) of tampering that's for sure, and they are renowned as all time greats. You're going to pretty much rule out the majority of players gone by with that stance.
That 'sandpaper gate' appears to have put a stop to it though, reverse swing certainly doesn't seem as prevalent as it was does it?
Edit - snap, read your next post re: reverse swing
Great example. No record of Curtley and Courtney resorting to that nonsense, does that make them better ?
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Enjoying Tubby Taylor’s summations.
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Strange how that stitching came off the first ball ,does make one wonder ..🤔
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@Steven-Harris said in Ashes 2023:
Strange how that stitching came off the first ball ,does make one wonder ..🤔
Dirty English cheats 😉
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Warner being Broad's bunny has maybe overshadowed some other issues with the Australian top order.
Cummins (29) has a higher series average with the bat than Warner (23.5). Cummins is also higher than BusChange (24), Carey (23.6), and Green (21). Smith has also been unusually century-or-bust, averaging 31.66.
Khawaja and Head have been the reliable ones, and Marsh is already the fourth highest run scorer.
