Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion

[Crazy Horse]

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.

think he did a bit of work with Crusaders backs during their home games 2017/2018, might've also coached the development team at the time?

Yes he did and off course was Canterbury HC.
He did a great job as attack coach at Bath so would fit into Hansens role well.

I can't recall because Canterbury have had too many teams that have looked like they are poorly coached the last few years, but Maddock springs to mind when I think of those teams. Please tell me I am wrong. Actually, did he even coach Canterbury?

[Stargazer]

@Crazy-Horse You're right. Canterbury only went backwards when he was head coach (2018-2019, then to Toshiba). Canterbury got worse after him and started improving again when Marty Bourke took over in 2022.

His coaching stats are here: https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/coachList.php?teamId=11

[Chris]

@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.

think he did a bit of work with Crusaders backs during their home games 2017/2018, might've also coached the development team at the time?

Yes he did and off course was Canterbury HC.
He did a great job as attack coach at Bath so would fit into Hansens role well.

I can't recall because Canterbury have had too many teams that have looked like they are poorly coached the last few years, but Maddock springs to mind when I think of those teams. Please tell me I am wrong. Actually, did he even coach Canterbury?

Yeah he did coach Canterbury was not a good success as you say Canterbury went though a decline when he took over.Plus some weird selections in his time.

[Chris]

As I understand it Andrew Goodman has an out clause in his Leinster contact,as he is an assistant coach and he had it written in to his contract in case Razor became AB coach.

[Tim]

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

[Chris]

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

Tim who else to they mention for the other jobs ? as it is pay walled for me.

[Machpants]

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

🤮

[Tim]

@Chris

Blues: Schmidt, Cotter, Boyd, Pivac

Crusaders: Goodman staying at Leinster, Cotter, Brad Mooar, Glenn Delaney, Deans (though unlikely to leave Japan, and Reds are after him)

[Chris]

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris

Blues: Schmidt, Cotter, Boyd, Pivac

Crusaders: Goodman staying at Leinster, Cotter, Brad Mooar, Glenn Delaney, Deans (though unlikely to leave Japan, and Reds are after him)

Thanks Mate.

[canefan]

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

Fuck. That.

[Machpants]

@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

Fuck. That.

Indeed that would be the most narrow-minded and shortsighted decision the canes management had ever made

[Stargazer]

@Machpants Agree, but it would be typical Canes!

[Machpants]

@Stargazer said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Machpants Agree, but it would be typical Canes!

True, that's why I can see it happening

[canefan]

@Machpants said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Stargazer said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Machpants Agree, but it would be typical Canes!

True, that's why I can see it happening

Out of the Holland frypan into the Gibbes fire....

[kiwi_expat]

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris

Blues: Schmidt, Cotter, Boyd, Pivac

Crusaders: Goodman staying at Leinster, Cotter, Brad Mooar, Glenn Delaney, Deans (though unlikely to leave Japan, and Reds are after him)

Thanks Mate.

article speculation as Mooar didn't have a great relationship with Mansbridge & Razor.

[Chris]

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris

Blues: Schmidt, Cotter, Boyd, Pivac

Crusaders: Goodman staying at Leinster, Cotter, Brad Mooar, Glenn Delaney, Deans (though unlikely to leave Japan, and Reds are after him)

Thanks Mate.

article speculation as Mooar didn't have a great relationship with Mansbridge & Razor.

Yep they did not rate Mooar very highly.

[kiwi_expat]

@Chris what was issue the Crusaders had with Brad, was it his on-field technical coaching? personal skills?

[SBW1]

Will the new All Black coaches have a role in choosing their Super franchise coaching successors?

[Chris]

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris what was issue the Crusaders had with Brad, was it his on-field technical coaching? personal skills?

Personal skills I think mainly,A bit of not wanting to fit into the teams patterns I believe.
He just seemed to not be a team player.

[canefan]

@SBW1 said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Will the new All Black coaches have a role in choosing their Super franchise coaching successors?

I wouldn't have thought so. The teams' respective boards have the opportunity to stuff that up