Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion

[Bovidae]

Paul Cully:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131876805/hurricanes-start-work-on-coach-long-list-as-all-blacks-spark-super-rugby-scramble

[Tim]

@Bovidae Interesting that he doesn't mention Jonno Gibbs. Have heard that he is interested, but that may only have been if he was going to work with Rennie.

[Stargazer]

@Tim His time in charge at Clermont wasn't exactly a success. That was why he was sacked mid-season. Good assistant coach, but maybe not a good head coach at a higher level (than NPC)?

[Nevorian]

Conrad Smith in an assistant role somewhere

[kiwi_expat]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300864405/who-is-scott-hansen-meet-the-least-known-of-the-new-all-blacks-assistant-coaches

"It's also understood the Crusaders approached former assistant coach Andrew Goodman, but he is locked into his contract with Irish club Leinster and won't be moving back to New Zealand." @Chris, is this true?

[Chris]

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300864405/who-is-scott-hansen-meet-the-least-known-of-the-new-all-blacks-assistant-coaches

"It's also understood the Crusaders approached former assistant coach Andrew Goodman, but he is locked into his contract with Irish club Leinster and won't be moving back to New Zealand." @Chris, is this true?

Yes he went on a one year deal and it has been rolled over for a 2nd year.

I heard Goodman is the man the Crusaders are after depending on how tight that contract is.
Otherwise it is another man’s job.

[kiwi_expat]

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300864405/who-is-scott-hansen-meet-the-least-known-of-the-new-all-blacks-assistant-coaches

"It's also understood the Crusaders approached former assistant coach Andrew Goodman, but he is locked into his contract with Irish club Leinster and won't be moving back to New Zealand." @Chris, is this true?

Yes he went on a one year deal and it has been rolled over for a 2nd year.

I heard Goodman is the man the Crusaders are after depending on how tight that contract is.
Otherwise it is another man’s job.

Huh? according to you they'd already locked in their next coach and were just waiting for the right time to announce it?

[Chris]

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300864405/who-is-scott-hansen-meet-the-least-known-of-the-new-all-blacks-assistant-coaches

"It's also understood the Crusaders approached former assistant coach Andrew Goodman, but he is locked into his contract with Irish club Leinster and won't be moving back to New Zealand." @Chris, is this true?

Yes he went on a one year deal and it has been rolled over for a 2nd year.

I heard Goodman is the man the Crusaders are after depending on how tight that contract is.
Otherwise it is another man’s job.

Huh? according to you they'd already locked in their next coach and were just waiting for the right time to announce it?

Things change dont they I said they had decided who they wanted.

[kiwi_expat]

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

[Chris]

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.
He fits well with the criteria they seem to be looking for.

[kiwi_expat]

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.

think he did a bit of work with Crusaders backs during their home games 2017/2018, might've also coached the development team at the time?

[Chris]

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.

think he did a bit of work with Crusaders backs during their home games 2017/2018, might've also coached the development team at the time?

Yes he did and off course was Canterbury HC.
He did a great job as attack coach at Bath so would fit into Hansens role well.

[Crazy Horse]

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.

think he did a bit of work with Crusaders backs during their home games 2017/2018, might've also coached the development team at the time?

Yes he did and off course was Canterbury HC.
He did a great job as attack coach at Bath so would fit into Hansens role well.

I can't recall because Canterbury have had too many teams that have looked like they are poorly coached the last few years, but Maddock springs to mind when I think of those teams. Please tell me I am wrong. Actually, did he even coach Canterbury?

[Stargazer]

@Crazy-Horse You're right. Canterbury only went backwards when he was head coach (2018-2019, then to Toshiba). Canterbury got worse after him and started improving again when Marty Bourke took over in 2022.

His coaching stats are here: https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/coachList.php?teamId=11

[Chris]

@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

https://www.bathrugby.com/club-news/joe-maddock-departs-bath-rugby/

@Chris does this suggest anything? Crusaders are looking for 2 coaches next season.

Not that I have heard but maybe.

think he did a bit of work with Crusaders backs during their home games 2017/2018, might've also coached the development team at the time?

Yes he did and off course was Canterbury HC.
He did a great job as attack coach at Bath so would fit into Hansens role well.

I can't recall because Canterbury have had too many teams that have looked like they are poorly coached the last few years, but Maddock springs to mind when I think of those teams. Please tell me I am wrong. Actually, did he even coach Canterbury?

Yeah he did coach Canterbury was not a good success as you say Canterbury went though a decline when he took over.Plus some weird selections in his time.

[Chris]

As I understand it Andrew Goodman has an out clause in his Leinster contact,as he is an assistant coach and he had it written in to his contract in case Razor became AB coach.

[Tim]

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

[Chris]

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

Tim who else to they mention for the other jobs ? as it is pay walled for me.

[Machpants]

@Tim said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

Revealed: The front-runners for Super Rugby's top jobs

Liam Napier reports on the latest developments in NZ's coaching roundabout.

The Herald only really mentions one name for the Hurricanes: Chris Gibbes.

🤮

[Tim]

@Chris

Blues: Schmidt, Cotter, Boyd, Pivac

Crusaders: Goodman staying at Leinster, Cotter, Brad Mooar, Glenn Delaney, Deans (though unlikely to leave Japan, and Reds are after him)