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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    At least you have stopped trying to make stuff up.

    As I said, from the lacks of leaks it looks like the Blues are treating the hiring process with more privacy - or the people in the running a less inclined to speak to the press.

    Your attempts to read tea leaves from silence is very much 2 + 2 = 20.

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    @Crucial said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    I know you don't like being corrected, but you were not misquoted. You said something stupid, implying you (or some journalists) knew who the Blues choices were and were being gazumped, when in reality you have no idea.

    Of course I have no idea, nor do you.

    Never said I did. You are the one making silly comments based on nothing.

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    @Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    Your attempts to read tea leaves from silence is very much 2 + 2 = 20.

    I think someone else explained that already

    @Stargazer said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Kirwan That's not pushing a narrative. It's just speculating about possible reasons for the "silence" at the Blues. It's a quite normal thing to do on the Fern if there are no clear answers.

    Making stuff up? Speculation?

    Potayto/potahto

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    And again, when you something stupid, and then double down on it, you have to just take the correction. You can keep trying to argue it all you like.

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    I deleted the last post because this is getting boring. Particularly when it gets to the "stop picking on me" bullshit because you don't like people disagreeing with you

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    Does anyone know what Jason O'Halloran doing now?

    He's no longer listed as the attack coach at Suntory.

    https://www.suntory.com/culture-sports/sungoliath/squad/

    It blows my mind that he hasn't been approached by any SR franchises.

    His CV reads, 2011 & 2010 U20 attack coach, best Manawatu coach ever, Scotland asst. 2015-2017, Glasgow asst. 2016-20, Suntory attack coach 2021-2022 (2 time finalist & most tries scored in both seasons) and once he leaves Suntory (2023) their performance drops. I can't think of many who are anywhere near as successful coaching in NZ at the moment.

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    @kiwi_expat That drop to finishing fourth in the 2023 Japan League One happened while he was still their assistant coach.

    His departure from Sungoliath was only announced two weeks ago.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    Does anyone know what Jason O'Halloran doing now?

    He's no longer listed as the attack coach at Suntory.

    https://www.suntory.com/culture-sports/sungoliath/squad/

    It blows my mind that he hasn't been approached by any SR franchises.

    His CV reads, 2011 & 2010 U20 attack coach, best Manawatu coach ever, Scotland asst. 2015-2017, Glasgow asst. 2016-20, Suntory attack coach 2021-2022 (2 time finalist & most tries scored in both seasons) and now he leaves Suntory (2023) their performance drops significantly. I can't think of many who are anywhere near as successful coaching in NZ at the moment.

    If he can lift an attack he would be welcome at the Landers wouldn't he?

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    I really hope O'Halloran is a major Canes target as an assistant.

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    Some of these coaching selections in particular the Crusaders seem like they are not longterm and almost in a caretaker role. We will wait and see, seems like they are the solution until a better candidate becomes available.

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    @SBW1 said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    Some

    If the crusaders win again this year it will be difficult for any new coach. Even if the team doesn't... Maybe thats why they are in this position. Whereas the blues and canes are great teams for a new coach to prove himself.

    Say 3 -5 years without winning then a new coach could do a Robertson. If they are good enough

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    @foobaNZ said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    I really hope O'Halloran is a major Canes target as an assistant.

    Maybe he now wants a head coach position

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    Not sure where to post this but a bit of negative talk about Rob Penny being appointed as Crusaders coach by one poster in particular, putting some perspective on his time at the Waratahs instead of saying players bagged Penny which I have not seen this below from an article out of Sydney after Penny was let go.

    Former Wallaby Drew Mitchell tweeted on Sunday evening: “The coach was never the biggest issue … just a case of making a decision to make it look like something is being done.”

    Did you hear the one about the rugby team who let veteran players go, spent well underneath the salary cap, and then sacked their coach when they didn’t win any games?

    If that was a hypothetical scenario, it would be laughed off as unrealistic. Yet it is exactly what has happened at the Waratahs this season.

    It’s still hard to fathom how anyone could look at the Tahs at the moment and come to the conclusion that Rob Penney was the problem.

    In each of his seasons in charge, the Kiwi was put in the unenviable position of leading the roster hit hardest by player departures out of all the Australian sides.

    The post-World Cup exodus ahead of 2020 saw the likes of Tolu Latu, Sekope Kepu and Bernard Foley leave, before Kurtley Beale followed before the season restart.

    This year, Penney was deprived of the services of Michael Hooper, Rob Simmons, Ned Hannigan and Karmichael Hunt, none of whom were replaced by a player of equivalent skill as a sixth of the salary cap went unspent. Injuries to captain and scrumhalf Jake Gordon, Wallabies prop Angus Bell and promising centre Joey Walton only exacerbated the squad’s lack of depth.

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