It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.
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@taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!
Not really, the coaches are all NZ contracted, so the sorting of assist coaches is not hard. The hard part is 3 SR teams cleaning up the mess afterwards, like we had with Hollands appt last minute to the Canes 2019/2020
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@Machpants .....that might be one of the most random combination of words in a single sentence ive ever heard....im going to have to looks that now....im sure i'll regret it
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@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!
Not really, the coaches are all NZ contracted, so the sorting of assist coaches is not hard. The hard part is 3 SR teams cleaning up the mess afterwards, like we had with Hollands appt last minute to the Canes 2019/2020
They may be NZR contracted but many get top ups from the Franchise partners
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@Bovidae said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
How many assistant coaches does Robertson want? If that NZH article is correct, MacDonald is sort of redundant when you also have Holland in charge of the attack.
If this helps, I did some digging for you - a complete history of Razor's assistant configuration.
NZ U20's (less relevant as limited resources for a full coaching set-up.)
2015: MacDonald, Umaga.
2016: Philpott, Rickards.
Canterbury
2013-2014: Ryan, Holland, Hansen.
2015-2016: Ryan, Haggard, Maddock.
Crusaders
2017: Ryan, MacDonald, Mooar.
2018-2019: Ryan, O'Gara, Goodman, Mooar.
2020: Ryan, Hansen, Goodman, Jones.
2021-2022: Ryan, Hansen, Goodman, Ellison.
2023: Perrin, Hansen, Marshall, Ellison.
Seems like a forwards/set-piece coach, 2-3 attack/backs coaches, & defense coach is his preferred structure.
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@canefan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout
Awkward ramifications? Must have been such an huge surprise to them all...hope none of them read that article.
Weird take by NZH
But you repeat yourself
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@Machpants quoted NZH in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Blues head coach Leon MacDonald taking charge of attacking shape
Well, I guess we're all going to be thrilled with the difference in Beauden no longer cross field kicking to try and stretch the defence...
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
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@Bovidae fair call.
Wouldn't be averse, but I do get better vibes with Papalii.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett,Ardie Savea or stick with Cane could be other options.
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett,Ardie Savea or stick with Cane could be other options.
Wasn't sure his plans post RWC.
Cane (and am massive fanboi) no guarantee to be No.1 No.7 THIS year.
See above re SB.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wouldn't be averse, but I do get better vibes with Papalii.
I'm not sure Papalii is the best option myself. He's not the most vocal on-field captain, and you need someone who is always in the ear of the ref, or at the very least, asks the right questions when required.
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@Bovidae said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
always in the ear of the ref
Tend to think that's overrated.
Gregan and Burke did it well for Aus and McCaw for us, but think it's not as much of a factor anymore.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Someone who's guaranteed to play 80 minutes, I'd love to see Jordie AB's captain at 12, he's a massive leader for the Hurricanes, very tactically smart player and would relish that extra responsibility I reckon.
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@kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Someone who's guaranteed to play 80 minutes, I'd love to see Jordie AB's captain at 12, he's a massive leader for the Hurricanes, very tactically smart player and would relish that extra responsibility I reckon.
I think I want it to be a forward. So the person ideally has to be a nailed on first choice starter. The only one I can think of is Barrett. The other Barrett
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@canefan if im honest im still nervous about barrett getting a card what what a bad look that is for a captain, he might have grown out of that though im not sure
