Black Caps v England
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
while i totally get your point, there is some context
Dan played a lot of tests for a kiwi. You take those lists on cricinfo, the average tests played by our top 50 run scorers is 51. Compare that to Australia, and theirs is 75.
Dan played 112 tests, or more than twice the average of that top 50. For Aus, Langer is at #9 and he played 105.Dan sits high on that list because he shares the record for the most tests for NZ, and managed to average 30 doing it. A few slight tweaks than just toal output (say, averages for those playing more than 20 tests and he plummets down the order (actually so does Langer, fuck Australia have had a lot of successful players)
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
while i totally get your point, there is some context
Dan played a lot of tests for a kiwi. You take those lists on cricinfo, the average tests played by our top 50 run scorers is 51. Compare that to Australia, and theirs is 75.
Dan played 112 tests, or more than twice the average of that top 50. For Aus, Langer is at #9 and he played 105.Dan sits high on that list because he shares the record for the most tests for NZ, and managed to average 30 doing it. A few slight tweaks than just toal output (say, averages for those playing more than 20 tests and he plummets down the order (actually so does Langer, fuck Australia have had a lot of successful players)
Yeah he’s on that list through longevity more than anything else although his average in his last few years would have been in the 40s I’m sure. He improved so much as a batsman ( still looked ugly doing it though )
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
while i totally get your point, there is some context
Dan played a lot of tests for a kiwi. You take those lists on cricinfo, the average tests played by our top 50 run scorers is 51. Compare that to Australia, and theirs is 75.
Dan played 112 tests, or more than twice the average of that top 50. For Aus, Langer is at #9 and he played 105.Dan sits high on that list because he shares the record for the most tests for NZ, and managed to average 30 doing it. A few slight tweaks than just toal output (say, averages for those playing more than 20 tests and he plummets down the order (actually so does Langer, fuck Australia have had a lot of successful players)
Yeah he’s on that list through longevity more than anything else although his average in his last few years would have been in the 40s I’m sure. He improved so much as a batsman ( still looked ugly doing it though )
i still remember him as a young fulla getting in to Allan fucking Donald, and looking super goofy while doing it
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Doesn't appear to be any demons in this pitch ..just need to hang in there as long as we can and score runs. Hopefully enough to make them anxious.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.
Also, 18 year career. Crazy.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.
Also, 18 year career. Crazy.
The Vettori style.
"I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."
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@KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.
Also, 18 year career. Crazy.
The Vettori style.
"I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."
……and until Ross Taylor emerged and McCullum found his mojo he was the best batsman in the BCs for a very depressing period !
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England currently throwing out a hugely negative field, partnered with horribly negative bowling.
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@KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.
Also, 18 year career. Crazy.
The Vettori style.
"I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."
There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.
I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.
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@Cyclops said in Black Caps v England:
@KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.
Also, 18 year career. Crazy.
The Vettori style.
"I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."
There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.
I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.
Anyway…..back to the present.
Fucken on ya Kane you little beauty !!!!!!!!
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Cyclops said in Black Caps v England:
@KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
Well done KW.
Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.
Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!
If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.
It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !
It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.
Also, 18 year career. Crazy.
The Vettori style.
"I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."
There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.
I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.
Anyway…..back to the present.
Fucken on ya Kane you little beauty !!!!!!!!
Love the understated celebration. Authentic ... classically kiwi.
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@1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:
Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s
Really Harsh.
He’s no Stephen Fleming…….
That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v England:
@1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:
Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s
Really Harsh.
He’s no Stephen Fleming…….
That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……
20+ centuries
Kane 44%Over 50%
Azharuddin
Bradman
Clarke
Hayden
Younis KhanKohli 49%
Sobers 46%
Steve Smith 44.78%So, up there, but not with the very best.
Good compared to some of the batsmen rated best ever thoughMarty Crowe had a better conversion rate but not over 20 centuries.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:
Good work, boys.
But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.
They have certainly made light work of recent chases against us!!
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@No-Quarter Because we're one-down in the series, I think we've got to give them sniff and enough carrot to keep chasing.
I'm thinking 350 off 70 overs - which would be the same rate they scored at in the first innings.
If the pitch is a road they'll probably make them.
