All Blacks 2023
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@ACT-Crusader It is a good sign that they are planning so far ahead. At the moment it is purely hypothetical, as we are only under halfway through the Super Pacific season. We also have an NPC season for a lot of talent to emerge and the 2024 Super Rugby season.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
I’m a Goldie fan, but he’s taking the Mickey with some of those picks.
Ratima over Roigard? Nah.
Cane still starting at openiside? Not if don’t win the RWC cough cough…
Razor is a fan of Jacobsen but I reckon they’ll find a place for DP and Blackadder.
Tight 5 looks pretty good.
Yeah, not saying I agree with Goldies picks, but I think you (and the panel) missed what the selection was, a team for 2024 picked on form so far rhis season, why I couldn't understand the what about Jordan etc. It wasn't supposed to be who Razor would pick, but on form so far this season Balckadder has hardly played, and Cane has been best 7,and WC hasn't been played. so no good rubbishing team fro wrong reasons.
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@Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2023:
@bayimports he’s 19 years old with a shit team around him including no experienced halves. He was great in the World Cup for Tonga when he was 18 or 19?
He was school sports captain, dux etc. Came through the Panthers system but they have Cleary and Luai.
If it’s taking a punt on Katoa or picking Mitch Hunt for the All Blacks I know who I’d go for
Really the team beaten by Samoa in their only game that counted in a game they were favourites for?, just out of curiosity, what position do you expect him to play? 10?
who was the last half that successfully transitioned in any country at the top level? (without using the line, he would have success because he would be trans)Look he is young and has talent but I still call BS on future AB. Im sure NZ rugby would say, never say never, I just don't see this happening
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
I’m a Goldie fan, but he’s taking the Mickey with some of those picks.
Ratima over Roigard? Nah.
Cane still starting at openiside? Not if don’t win the RWC cough cough…
Razor is a fan of Jacobsen but I reckon they’ll find a place for DP and Blackadder.
Tight 5 looks pretty good.
Yeah, not saying I agree with Goldies picks, but I think you (and the panel) missed what the selection was, a team for 2024 picked on form so far rhis season, why I couldn't understand the what about Jordan etc. It wasn't supposed to be who Razor would pick, but on form so far this season Balckadder has hardly played, and Cane has been best 7,and WC hasn't been played. so no good rubbishing team fro wrong reasons.
The panel may have, but I don’t think Ratima has played better than Roigard this SR season.
Cane has had one decent game (last weekend) and yet Blackadder has been a standout when selected. DP was below his best last weekend but had been excellent the other weeks.
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@bayimports said in All Blacks 2023:
@Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2023:
@bayimports he’s 19 years old with a shit team around him including no experienced halves. He was great in the World Cup for Tonga when he was 18 or 19?
He was school sports captain, dux etc. Came through the Panthers system but they have Cleary and Luai.
If it’s taking a punt on Katoa or picking Mitch Hunt for the All Blacks I know who I’d go for
Really the team beaten by Samoa in their only game that counted in a game they were favourites for?, just out of curiosity, what position do you expect him to play? 10?
who was the last half that successfully transitioned in any country at the top level? (without using the line, he would have success because he would be trans)Look he is young and has talent but I still call BS on future AB. Im sure NZ rugby would say, never say never, I just don't see this happening
I reckon 12 would be his position, more specifically as a 2nd 5/8 rather than inside centre if you get my drift. I stand corrected but he is a 6 in league isn't he? A 6 in league tends to play like a 2nd 5/8 in union.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2023:
@bayimports said in All Blacks 2023:
@Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2023:
@bayimports he’s 19 years old with a shit team around him including no experienced halves. He was great in the World Cup for Tonga when he was 18 or 19?
He was school sports captain, dux etc. Came through the Panthers system but they have Cleary and Luai.
If it’s taking a punt on Katoa or picking Mitch Hunt for the All Blacks I know who I’d go for
Really the team beaten by Samoa in their only game that counted in a game they were favourites for?, just out of curiosity, what position do you expect him to play? 10?
who was the last half that successfully transitioned in any country at the top level? (without using the line, he would have success because he would be trans)Look he is young and has talent but I still call BS on future AB. Im sure NZ rugby would say, never say never, I just don't see this happening
I reckon 12 would be his position, more specifically as a 2nd 5/8 rather than inside centre if you get my drift. I stand corrected but he is a 6 in league isn't he? A 6 in league tends to play like a 2nd 5/8 in union.
He is small and currently doesn't look like the type of half that could take a lot of traffic coming his way. He plays both 6 and 7 in league, I would say arguably he might actually make a better halfback in union than an 10 or 12. He can command a team around well and is developing his game. I don't think he would play 12 in union, for me he would be a 9 or 10 if he did convert. But all guesses based off what i have seen and perhaps with age he could though
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@bayimports Going by that article sounds like Razor may have his eye on more than one in the NRL as they move to improve depth from 2024.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
I’m a Goldie fan, but he’s taking the Mickey with some of those picks.
Ratima over Roigard? Nah.
Cane still starting at openiside? Not if don’t win the RWC cough cough…
Razor is a fan of Jacobsen but I reckon they’ll find a place for DP and Blackadder.
Tight 5 looks pretty good.
Yeah, not saying I agree with Goldies picks, but I think you (and the panel) missed what the selection was, a team for 2024 picked on form so far rhis season, why I couldn't understand the what about Jordan etc. It wasn't supposed to be who Razor would pick, but on form so far this season Balckadder has hardly played, and Cane has been best 7,and WC hasn't been played. so no good rubbishing team fro wrong reasons.
The panel may have, but I don’t think Ratima has played better than Roigard this SR season.
Cane has had one decent game (last weekend) and yet Blackadder has been a standout when selected. DP was below his best last weekend but had been excellent the other weeks.
Cane has had more than one decent game.
Defence and tackle % are a big reason Chiefs are topping the table at the moment. Cane is setting a high example. His tackles are mostly stopping players making the advantage line as well.
He is playing well. Better than one game.
I like Blackadder's play as well. Hopefully energy is being well spent these days. He has a tendency of being really busy but not as effective. Flankers improve with age as far as making themselves look like they aren't racing around like a fly in a jar. -
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
@bayimports Going by that article sounds like Razor may have his eye on more than one in the NRL as they move to improve depth from 2024.
and he might, there are a few kiwis floating around playing different roles, he would be silly not to evaluate them and to be clear I never have suggested he shouldn't. I just dont think Kotoa is realistically one who will switch
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
Cane has had one decent game
you're my boy and all, but this is clearly bullshit, he's the form 7 of the comp.
I like Blackadder, especially his complete disregard for his health. My concern with sticking him to our trio at 6 is we are then sort of landed with 3 dudes all about the same proportions. Lineouts matter quite a lot, especially at test level.
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@SBW1 Yes went to Burnside. He's nothing special.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
Lineouts matter quite a lot, especially at test level.
more so than scrums in recent years.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
Cane has had one decent game
you're my boy and all, but this is clearly bullshit, he's the form 7 of the comp.
I like Blackadder, especially his complete disregard for his health. My concern with sticking him to our trio at 6 is we are then sort of landed with 3 dudes all about the same proportions. Lineouts matter quite a lot, especially at test level.
Yeah - with Ardie nailed in at 8, we've got to have a genuine lineout option (and some bulk) at 6.
I reckon they'll plan to play SBarrett at 6, with Frizell or maybe Akira as his deputy.
Blackadder is a great bench and squaddie option because he can play all three loose forward positions competently.
TJ suggesting Dom Gardiner is potentially a future lock or 6 for the ABs - too small to be an international lock, TJ. Too small even for a Super rugby lock, really - as the Reds showed last week.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
Cane has had one decent game
you're my boy and all, but this is clearly bullshit, he's the form 7 of the comp.
I like Blackadder, especially his complete disregard for his health. My concern with sticking him to our trio at 6 is we are then sort of landed with 3 dudes all about the same proportions. Lineouts matter quite a lot, especially at test level.
Yeah - with Ardie nailed in at 8, we've got to have a genuine lineout option (and some bulk) at 6.
I reckon they'll plan to play SBarrett at 6, with Frizell or maybe Akira as his deputy.
Blackadder is a great bench and squaddie option because he can play all three loose forward positions competently.
TJ suggesting Dom Gardiner is potentially a future lock or 6 for the ABs - too small to be an international lock, TJ. Too small even for a Super rugby lock, really - as the Reds showed last week.
Gardiner is really a 6, only covering at Lock with all the injuries,
On the AB XV tour at the end of last season he played 6.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
C'mon Razor, bring back Leo Thompson! Make the opposition see double! He was an excellent 12 at school, U19 & U20 level. Still contracted to the Knights for a few years though.
Homesick, mental health, hey presto he's back in NZ playing rugby!
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@Stargazer Valance Te Whare is one they will be watching too I think when he makes his debut
