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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2023:

    As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

    If we're being honest that team was imposed on him when the NZRFU got rid of the previous assistants

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    @canefan although the team he took on in 2020 wasnt his first choice either...

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    Good to see they are having some fun this year.
    I think the criticism of management / NZR was justified. Pre WC AB fan frustration boiled over.
    Hopeful simmer at the moment.

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    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit from Ireland…

    FIFY coz we all know those bums are cursed at RWCs

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

    I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

    I'd say it's night and day.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    If we're being honest that team was imposed on him when the NZRFU got rid of the previous assistants

    "Imposed on him"? He always wanted Schmidt as Assistant Coach and has made that clear (can't be arsed to google it yet again).

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

    I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

    I'd say it's night and day.

    I don't think they are going forward better than under Plumtree, but they are doing it for more than 20% of the game and not making the stupid, serial dumb mistakes which handed momentum back to the opposition we've seen in the past.

    Huge improvement and kudos to Ryan.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack

    My view has been Foster inherited a pile of poo from Hansen and NZ Rugby has fallen behind other countries in developing players and a pipeline for the national team. Wasn't convinced he was the cause of all the ills and another Head Coach would deliver nirvana but neither was I convinced Foster was the bloke to turn it around either

    Thought he should have gone after Ireland III and was appalled at the way he was treated by NZR, but he clearly had the confidence of the players in spades.

    Early days, but it looks like different team and Foster - equally with Ryan, Schmidt, McLeod and the players - deserve a lot of credit

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

    I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

    I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

    6 is the new 13

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

    I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

    I'd say it's night and day.

    I wiill admit to being a Ryan fan, he even looks like a forward coach to me!

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    @pakman

    I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2023:

    @pakman

    I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

    I tend to think he regularly sees patterns where there are none, plus he is offensively ugly. The unfathomable ugliness makes it worth watching until the end, though.

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

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    @Smuts said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

    ? We’re not losing to Italy so regardless of the French we’ll be in the ¼ finals. Whether that is you guys, Ireland or Scotland only time will tell….

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Smuts said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

    ? We’re not losing to Italy so regardless of the French we’ll be in the ¼ finals. Whether that is you guys, Ireland or Scotland only time will tell….

    Fair point. It could be either the Scots or the mick who qualify for QF4.

    I admire your confidence that you’ll beat France and that the Irish will beat the Scots.

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    Jacobson an absolute lightweight at this level

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