All Blacks 2023
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Interesting they appear to rate Christie ahead of Weber at half-back. Would have thought the Weber-DMac combination was a no-brainer. Also surprised at Goodhue being dropped back to the XV squad. His combination with Ennor has been special. Lastly, why leave Stevenson out? He seems to me a perfect fit for test rugby - an X-factor player who makes few mistakes.
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The more I look at this squad the more average it looks. I think our top 23 will compete with the very best but if we get injuries we are definitely in trouble.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had
Has a chance to make another statement on Saturday
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
The more I look at this squad the more average it looks. I think our top 23 will compete with the very best but if we get injuries we are definitely in trouble.
Halfback and second five are issues. Wonder if JB or ALB starts? JB has been poor for me and the combo of him and Reiko makes me nervous.
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Ryan's comments about what he wants from a 6 weren't a surprise. I can only hope that his props also show some physicality.
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@Mattasaurus Been Foster's men.
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What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence. He's defended well all year, 500 times better than Telea.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
Several hilarious selections.
It called "being bold".
Looking at both the AB & AB VX squads feeding into the RWC selection, and taking into account players coming back from injury, it makes more sense.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
Interesting! I see Zarn is the best kicker for the Blues! 100%! (It's quality not quantity as the bishop said to the actress)...
Not always
A 50% kicker who’s played 20 games that season is more valuable to the team than a 100% kicker who played four times
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence.
Jordan isn't a great defender at fullback, so it will be interesting to see if he gets a go in that position.
I expect that BB gets another lifeline in the no.15 jersey so Jordan plays on the right wing.
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@Donsteppa They had the same critisim of James Lowes regarding defence but like Stephenson possesses a massive kicking game but i reckon Stephenson is better in the air and has more gas
International rugby is about defusing high kicks , and a little bit of game management with a big boot added in plus some offloading X factor and pace goes a long way. -
St Peter's Cambridge just tripled their AB reps tonight.
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Victor Meldrewreplied to Canes4life on 18 Jun 2023, 08:43 last edited by Victor Meldrew 18 Jun 2023, 09:21
TBF, he said SS has come a long way and wants him near the squad. Pretty clear they rate him highly and want to work with him on the issues they see.
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@Stargazer it says Tyrone Thompson as assigned to Wellington? Is that just a typo or is he coming back here?
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Brad Weber unlucky.
Finlay Christie lucky.
Gotta say - I was thinking Dallas McCleod might make it.
Probably a better 12 than Jordie -lol -
Cool your jets
There’s a LOT of rugby to be played before facing France
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Amazing to think that our 2019 u20s team which was our worst ever team at that level has produced 8 ABs.
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@Canes4life No, it's a mistake. He was stoked with his move to the Magpies after last season. Not just because he was back home, but also because he got lots of game time. No way he'll return to Wellington, sitting on the bench because Aumua gets the starts.
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@MiketheSnow Yeah, I expect a different squad to be named for the RWC. Some who are missing from this ABs squad will get in; several others will drop out.
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The interest will be in the naming of the 23 to play Argentina. Hopefully, it's not just the same old names in some positions.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:
Cool your jets
There’s a LOT of rugby to be played before facing France
Five tests is a lot ?
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Haven't heard any moaning about Sam Cane. That's a first.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:
Haven't heard any moaning about Sam Cane. That's a first.
That's on facebook.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
Ryan's comments about what he wants from a 6 weren't a surprise. I can only hope that his props also show some physicality.
Ryan's comments about selecting were also interesting, you know like actually going to as many games as possible and then following up with a lot of time on computer to check on individual things you want to see!
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@Stargazer Tevita Mafileo was also incorrectly listed as playing for BOP, rather than Harbour.
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@Stargazer yeah I thought that would have been a strange move for him.
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@Victor-Meldrew Pretty sure he gets a run. Telea has an injury.
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Three weeks until the first test, two months after that we play France in the World Cup.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
Scratching my head about Christie over Weber & McLeod over SS.
Other than that pretty much as expected.
Where's your indignation?
Foster, Foster, Foster...
Not losing my shit over the team.
A couple of calls I'd have done different, but we're talking the fringes IMO
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Hopefully Finau gets a genuine shot at 6 in TRC. We know what the other options bring - time to find out what Finau brings.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad was selected by the All Blacks coaching team of Ian Foster, Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup against Japan XV and Brave Blossoms.
The squad includes nine players with Test experience including Aidan Ross, Asafo Aumua, Akira Ioane, Pita Gus Sowakula, Brad Weber, Folau Fakatava, Stephen Perofeta, Brett Cameron and Jack Goodhue.Following their inaugural Northern tour last year, Leon MacDonald has again been named as All Blacks XV Head Coach alongside Assistant Coaches Clayton McMillan and Scott Hansen.
The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad is as follows (age, Super Rugby club, province):
Forwards:
Props
Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)Hookers
Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)Locks
Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Ta$man)
Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)Loose Forwards
Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)Backs:
Halfbacks
Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)First-five-eighths
Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)Midfielders
Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Ta$man)
Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)Outside Backs
Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)The All Blacks XV assemble on 29 June, travelling to Tokyo where they compete for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup kicking off Saturday 8 July, at Tokyo’s historic Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium in Tokyo before a second match on Saturday, July 15 at Egao Kenko Stadium in Kumamoto.
Locks are weak IMO
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@KiwiMurph Quite excited about him tbh. Would like to see him chucked in straight away.
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@booboo Exactly, some of the selections aren't worth getting annoyed over.
It's good having a B team as well, let guys prove their worth there instead of carrying the water and tackle bags around.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:
Haven't heard any moaning about Sam Cane. That's a first.
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Last reply 40 minutes agoVERY lucky on form and function.
Also if Sam Whitelock is playing he's the Moral Captain, doesn't matter what Foster thinks.
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I assume foster said he was “excited” while sounding utterly bored.
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I read somewhere that Foster was sad he got no reply from texts he sent to guys that missed out. I would give them time to process it.
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@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2023:
I read somewhere that Foster was said he got no reply from texts he sent to guys that missed out.
Yeah he said that on the breakdown.
Laura McGoldrick looked quite nice too.
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@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2023:
I read somewhere that Foster was said he got no reply from texts he sent to guys that missed out.
Some players hadn't responded to texts or voice messages, not all of them.
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