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    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

    Dallas Macleod is listed at over 100 kg, pretty descent sized midfielder if he goes well he will definitely be in Razor's squad next year.

    He has played well this year. But not a lot in midfield in pressure games.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

    And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

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    Frizell ,Christie and CC .... I just don't see what they have done to get picked.

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    One or two good moments and his D was v. good, but apart from that, pretty average and didn't look all that match fit. Def. not out of the frame and good move from Foster to give him and people like Fakatava match time in the AB XV.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

    And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

    His low work rate and habit of slipping over when changing direction should have counted against him.

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    @kev IIRC he shifted to the midfield in several games after subs in the 2nd half.

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    @kev said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

    And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

    His low work rate and habit of slipping over when changing direction should have counted against him.

    He's fixed the slipping over thing but the defence and workrate issues mean he's very lucky.

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    A liitle shocked SS did’nt make the intial team as opposed to injury cover
    Not surprised both Akira and Sotutu did’nt make the cut
    Surprised at both Finau and Mcleod making the cut but based on form fair enough
    Only issue i have is Finlay Christie ,hardly an influence at super level and he has’nt set the world on fire in a black jersey and not to mention his service from the base with is mediocre
    Can understand the annoyance around Nepo but he can scrum but he will need to be way better in other facets
    Only good thing is , this is not the Rugby World Cup Squad

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    Lol, something to piss off everyone. Several hilarious selections.

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    @Tim Apart from Hoskins, I'm struggling to think of any surprise omissions.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

    @kev IIRC he shifted to the midfield in several games after subs in the 2nd half.

    He is a good player and on form a good option for squad. But it’s a big challenge defending in the midfield so more time would be better. Still have some concerns about Reiko ( who is an athletic freak, and good tackler, see Friday performance ) with all the time he has had there in the last 2 years.

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    I suspect the injury to Telea might have allowed the selectors to have the best of both worlds.

    Unsurprisingly, Stevenson needs to continue with the improvements that he has made in defence.

    ... Chiefs coach Clayton McMillan has been a vocal advocate of higher honours for Stevenson. Instead, the 27-year-old will provide injury cover for Mark Telea, who picked up a knock in the Blues' exit from Super Rugby.

    Asked what more Stevenson needed to do to be named as a fulltime squad member, though, coach Foster outlined the exact area he wants to see the Chiefs fullback improve in, with time running out for uncapped players to earn selection.

    "He'll find that out when he comes in," Foster told Sky Sport. "We've got pretty specific job requirements on both sides of the ball.

    "On the attack side, he's proven to be outstanding. He should be very proud of his year.

    "We've seen a massive improvement in the defensive structural stuff, the tackle and the contact work. But we still want to see a bit more in that space.

    "The fact he's going to come in, and be with us maybe for those first two tests, is a great opportunity to get a good read of that."

    Source: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/rugby-why-chiefs-standout-shaun-stevenson-was-overlooked-by-ian-foster-for-first-all-blacks-squad.html

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    Interesting they appear to rate Christie ahead of Weber at half-back. Would have thought the Weber-DMac combination was a no-brainer. Also surprised at Goodhue being dropped back to the XV squad. His combination with Ennor has been special. Lastly, why leave Stevenson out? He seems to me a perfect fit for test rugby - an X-factor player who makes few mistakes.

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    The more I look at this squad the more average it looks. I think our top 23 will compete with the very best but if we get injuries we are definitely in trouble.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

    Has a chance to make another statement on Saturday

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    The more I look at this squad the more average it looks. I think our top 23 will compete with the very best but if we get injuries we are definitely in trouble.

    Halfback and second five are issues. Wonder if JB or ALB starts? JB has been poor for me and the combo of him and Reiko makes me nervous.

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    Ryan's comments about what he wants from a 6 weren't a surprise. I can only hope that his props also show some physicality.

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    @Mattasaurus Been Foster's men.

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    What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence. He's defended well all year, 500 times better than Telea.

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