Australia v South Africa
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@Rapido said in Australia v South Africa:
I haven't seen day 2 action, yet. When I was watching on day 1 it was just green. But I understand the problem with the pitch was that it was too soft, rather than too green (can be related). The softness resulted in divots which then hardened causing unpredictable bounce.
Unpredictable bounce will result in batsmen not prepared to get behind the ball.
And so there were length balls, balls that would normally have batsmen coming forward, that were coming in at well above waist height.
Balls frequently deviated off the very green-looking pitch throughout the two days, with the surface offering increasingly steepling bounce in the closing phases of the game.
It was not just South Africa who felt the pitch was unhelpful for the batters.Scott Boland told ABC Sport that the number of wickets indicated that the pitch was "probably not" a fair one, while Steve Smith said it "wasn't much fun" to bat on..
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v South Africa:
And so there were length balls, balls that would normally have batsmen coming forward, that were coming in at well above waist height.
I am left to wonder what would have happened if Australia decided to bat a bit longer rather than going the slog on Day 2, or whether that slogging was a product of the pitch.
However, if it was getting worse then you wouldn't want to bat 4th, so you wouldn't go the slog...
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@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Ordinarily I’m one of the first to criticise the fuck you bloody crowd but when it’s a well respected and world class ex player I tend to pay attention.
Sehwag makes an excellent point here
Although I agree with him the ability of Indian cricket to always somehow make themselves the victim is quite impressive.
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@MajorRage said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Ordinarily I’m one of the first to criticise the fuck you bloody crowd but when it’s a well respected and world class ex player I tend to pay attention.
Sehwag makes an excellent point here
Although I agree with him the ability of Indian cricket to always somehow make themselves the victim is quite impressive.
I know but for once they have a point.
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Depends who Virender thinks "they" are.
I'm assuming he's feeling sensitive about English media reaction to the 2 day test involving England in Ahmedabad and therefore it is pure hypocrisy if a test in Brisbane (jnvolving different players and media and officials ) also lasts 2 days, probably because they're majority white people? Makes sense to me ....
Personally, I like them both. As I said, a 2-day test pitch is a misjudged 3 day test pitch. And 3 day cricket rocks.
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@Rapido I doubt it’s that. There are always shrieks from Aussie commentators, ex players and even current players when they tour India. “Dust bowls” “more cracks than a construction site” etc. Probably happened more when Virender was still playing because India had such dominant spin bowlers in those conditions too.
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I agree with @Rapido having a pitch that favours the bowlers is great fun to watch in the test arena. Makes a 50 or 100 from the batsmen so much more meaningful as well, seeing 4 blokes get tons in one innings is a real bore.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v South Africa:
@Rapido I doubt it’s that. There are always shrieks from Aussie commentators, ex players and even current players when they tour India. “Dust bowls” “more cracks than a construction site” etc. Probably happened more when Virender was still playing because India had such dominant spin bowlers in those conditions too.
Without being able to see inside his head. I don't think so. This is recent noise from the Kohli era. In particular from the England series last year.
The era when Virender was still playing were roads.
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@Rapido said in Australia v South Africa:
Depends who Virender thinks "they" are.
I'm assuming he's feeling sensitive about English media reaction to the 2 day test involving England in Ahmedabad and therefore it is pure hypocrisy if a test in Brisbane (jnvolving different players and media and officials ) also lasts 2 days, probably because they're majority white people? Makes sense to me ....
Yeah, nah. English media were right to slam them. I've not seen any commentary from the English media on the SA / Aus game, let alone any that is written in a positive light. So can't be that.
I'm guessing it's more that India cricket takes offence with anybody who doesn't bow down to their awesomeness & dares to criticise them. And Australians don't hold back in this light! Would have been criticism of the pitch (and probably, the poms) & now talking about how this was a special game or something.
Lets not bring skins colour into this Meg ...
Personally, I like them both. As I said, a 2-day test pitch is a misjudged 3 day test pitch. And 3 day cricket rocks.
Sort of agree. Love a 3 day match. 2 day is a bit much.
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@Rapido said in Australia v South Africa:
Putting on my waders, and stepping into the shitstream and reading the twitter thread Virender has started. It would appear that Michael Vaughan is probably the "they".
Yeah, had a look. Indeed, it seems Vaughan criticised the Indian pitch. He also criticised the Gabba pitch, so looks like there is some learning of what the word hypocrisy means!
Seems the thin skin on India cricket fans comes from their idols ...
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love the chat on the previous pages "pitch was fine it's just shit batting aye. T20 has fucked them"
Since the game the batsmen have spoken and it sounds like a fucking minefield. Absolutely no chance guys are getting in line when they have no idea if it's going to keep low, or zing up, depending on where it lands. It also means you are more likely to just try and score a few before you get the one with your name on it.
They just got the moisture wrong, which is pretty bad really (even the curator admits it was a shit pitch).
Still, i thought it was a great deck. fuck protected modern batsmen. Fill your boots seamers.
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@Rapido said in Australia v South Africa:
3 day test cricket is, for me, pretty much sport at it's absolute apex. Batting bores me.
A 2 DAY TEST IS JUST A SLIGHTLY MIS-JUDGED PERFECT 3 DAY TEST .....
If a gentleman can't waste five days doing nothing other than drinking and watching sport...
I just like a contest where the batsmen have to protect their wicket, grind it out to make runs and then the process starts again with a new ball. Where timing of a declaration means the difference between winning and losing as the pitch deteriorates.
Which is why I hate T20.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v South Africa:
They just got the moisture wrong, which is pretty bad really (even the curator admits it was a shit pitch).
I could come up with a better pitch in the backyard. Fancy looking at that a couple of days out and not thinking "fuck, that's a bit green hey?"
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Aussie XI for the Boxing Day Test
1 David Warner, 2 Usman Khawaja, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Travis Head, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Alex Carey (wk), 8 Pat Cummins (capt), 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Scott Boland
Boland retains his place as Australia eye series win
AUS v SA 2022/23 Australia vs South Africa Match Preview: South Africa's batters will need to dig deep as visitors look to bounce back in what are expected to be better batting conditions
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@NTA said in Australia v South Africa:
@Duluth Warner gets his 100th Cap and then probably jettisoned unless he does something spectacular and/or Australia win.
He usually does something spectacular.
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@MajorRage said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Ordinarily I’m one of the first to criticise the fuck you bloody crowd but when it’s a well respected and world class ex player I tend to pay attention.
Sehwag makes an excellent point here
Although I agree with him the ability of Indian cricket to always somehow make themselves the victim is quite impressive.
The South African rugby fans of cricket
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@junior said in Australia v South Africa:
@MajorRage said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Ordinarily I’m one of the first to criticise the fuck you bloody crowd but when it’s a well respected and world class ex player I tend to pay attention.
Sehwag makes an excellent point here
Although I agree with him the ability of Indian cricket to always somehow make themselves the victim is quite impressive.
The South African rugby fans of cricket
Pretty apt description.
Warners performance will be interesting for sure. A shitload of pressure on the man but as I think I asked earlier, are there loads of alternatives to him if he fails again ?
