Canes vs Kings
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Kings are regularly jumping into the gap and into the Hurricanes players at the lineout to disrupt them</p></blockquote>
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Got beyond fucking obvious that -
A couple of law questions/observations.<br><br>
- Ball was kicked dead from the kick off.<br><br>
1.1 why not just force it? It doesn't have to go dead to get the scrum when it is from a kick off. <br><br>
Unless that rule that has been around for 15 years has changed. <br><br>
Appreciate any clarification.<br><br>
1.2 unless I am sadly mistaken a lineout at halfway is NOT an option from kicking the dead. Nor is it an option when the kick off did not go 10m. It is only an option if the kick off goes out on the full. <br><br>
Clarification appreciated if I am incorrect. But as the ball did NOT go into touch you can't have a lineout. <br><br>
So players (and commentators Sumo
) should stop making fools of themselves (unless I am) by trying to take a quick lineout when it is not an option. <br><br> - A maul was called held up in goal after it was pushed back into the field of play.<br><br>
I would have thought "held up in goal" would only come into play if the ball became unplayable. As the maul was still live surely it was play on until the maul finished and therefore should have defender's scrum. <br><br>
Again clarification appreciated.
- Ball was kicked dead from the kick off.<br><br>
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<p>Was at the game tonight and man was it a hard watch. Way too many butchered tries by the Canes, TJP would never be recognised as an All Black by an unknowing spectator, some of his passing was poor as was his picking of when to run or not. The Kings offered virtually nothing constructive on attack and really dragged the Hurricanes down to their own inept level.</p>
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<p>About the only area they won in the game was their victory over the referee not twigging that there must be something untoward going on given the abnormally high number of stoppages for injuries to Kings players. Pretty much at the conclusion of most phases of play there seemed to be a Kings player lying on the ground forcing the referee to stop play to enable them to be attended to. Really slowed the game to a crawl in the second half. My watch indicated there was about 58 minutes of running time in the second half ie 18 minutes of down time for injury stoppages and TMO referrals.</p>
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<p>There was one bonus however and that was seeing with my own eyes that Geoffrey Cridge is for real and not a figment of my imagination. He even managed to get through five minutes without getting injured. Will try and get my admission ticket autographed as it commerates such a rare occurance!!!!</p>
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<p>Rumours also have it that Hugh Renton took part in a Premier Reserve club match here today. Is this the first time a fully contracted Super Rugby player has played for a Club's second team?</p> -
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<p>Who cares about Savea? We produce a lot of talented wingers. As people have said, if he is over weight just show him the door. There will always be a young talnted guy like Naholo coming through. Only Hurricanes fans should really be concerned. Savea at his best is still an asset for the AB's but we can find any Savea.</p>
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<p>Most worrying is how poor Savea has been under the high ball this season.</p>
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<p>As one punter said he was underwhelming last AB season bar the blockbusting , ball in wrong arm run against France. I think he was absolutely in danger of being dropped but for Naholo being hurt then screwing up his opportunity with dropped balls. Given Savea is not great under high ball and you would not call him the most versitile winger speed and fitness are imperative for his game and it is just amazing that he cannot find the motivation to eat right and stay in shape in the off and on season.</p> -
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<p>i reckon laumape looks the best of the 2nd fives this year</p>
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<p>I assume you haven't watched the Chiefs then?</p>
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<p>In saying that Laumape has looked better with each game - the Warriors could do with him right now (although the coach would likely have him in reserve grade). Sounds like he's loving it back in rugby going by his interview after the game, and wasn't that happy at the Warriors.</p> -
<p>Laumape looks like a great ball runner. The rest of his game just hasn't been tested enough though.</p>
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<p>I don't know what to say about that game last night. I think we definitely deserved the win and the bonus point. If that is the most undeserved BP ever then you probably didn't watch the first 20 years of Super Rugby. We dominated at the start and got out to a good lead which helped us in the end but we were poor for most of the middle period. I think we just lacked a bit of patience more than anything. Also Barrett didn't impose himself into the game.</p> -
<p>How deep does Barrett want to stand? Was pretty hard at times to get over the gain line when he was standing so far back all the time.</p>
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<p>Was a bit odd, because on the news, he was saying how he likes to play flat and that he was going to take on the line more in this game, then come game time, he barely does any of the two.</p> -
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<p>I haven't watched the game yet. Any chance Halahola forced himself into a starting spot? Or will Proctor get a go next?</p>
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<p> Makes some good breaks but has not learned when to distribute the ball yet.</p> -
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<p>How deep does Barrett want to stand? Was pretty hard at times to get over the gain line when he was standing so far back all the time.</p>
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<p>Was a bit odd, because on the news, he was saying how he likes to play flat and that he was going to take on the line more in this game, then come game time, he barely does any of the two.</p>
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<p>His "distribution" is slow and telegraphed. He plays too deep and I think he still shies from physical contact. (i.e, getting up in the face of the defence)</p> -
Barrett is very good at Super level but the battle for the starting 10 spot is between Sopoaga and Cruden. They are both streets ahead.
