Japan v All Blacks
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@kiwi_expat said in Japan v All Blacks:
A low centre of gravity ball of muscle with the same dimensions as Laumape
Reece must have some kind of instant photo shop going as that does not describe what I see at all
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He doesn't have anywhere near the power Laumape possesed, that's just fanciful thinking. He's quick on his feet which allows him to get on the outside shoulder of the defender. I don't think I recall him ever going right over the top of anyone.
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In fact the main reason Clarke is ahead of him on the left is his power game.
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@kiwi_expat said in Japan v All Blacks:
https://www.mako.nz/sevu-reece
Reece is 5kg heavier than Jordan (despite being 9cm taller)
He is so much bulkier than Jordan who's as skinny as B.Barrett, do the eye-test, Jordan is lanky af.
Who would you rather tackle coming at you full-tilt while defending a narrow channel on the wing?
A low centre of gravity ball of muscle with the same dimensions as Laumape, in-built Polynesian explosiveness - Fast twitch muscle fibres, particularly type iib. (Polynesians have the highest proportion of fast twitch muscle fibres of any other ethnic group) and incredible core strength? or a lanky skinny fullback. Jordan is not a test winger, he's solely a fullback, he desperately lacks physicality which is absolutely critical at test-level.
If you don't write surveys for the government already, maybe you should. That question was asked in a way to elicite only one answer.
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@pakman said in Japan v All Blacks:
@kiwi_expat said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:
@canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:
With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.
Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ
Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!
They were all in the backline that knocked the Irish out of last World Cup? Smith scored twice, and Beady scored no?
Yeah - but, nek minnit....
And frankly, that was my main take-away from that next game. Too many little backs.
Reece isn't little, he's 178cm but weighs around 99kg, he carries a shitload of muscle.
Beauden is 187cm & 92kg in comparison.
Has a big head for a small bloke.
Be thankful he never played when Zinzan Brooke and Melon Finegan were running round. The earths gravitational pull would be fucked.
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A few remarks after a second viewing :
The AB forwards were very poor at the breakdown. The loose forwards did not compete in the rucks, letting the Japanese get quick ball.
The problems at the LO came from a bad coordination between the thrower (Taukei'aho), the jumper (Vaai'i) and his lifters. The quality of the throwing looked OK to me.
Defense is a worry. The Japanese missed a few important tackles because some of their players are not up to it, but their general organization in that respect was excellent. Mitchell is a very good defense coach (as he showed for England), better than McLeod IMO.
Scrum was very good but it was only Japan. The problem is that both starting props bring nothing in the loose but this is not new.
Ennor did better than what transpired through the Ferners comments. He was not bad but he clearly came second best behind Riley.
RTS did not make a single error. His passing was good. But is he a second five ? He does not seem to know when and how to kick.
Kicking was dreadful. Christie and Mo'unga had a mare in that respect. The latter was standing flat and static, which is surprising against a rush defense. His kicking from the tee was perfect though.
Perofeta did well when he was used as the first receiver. He is certainly a better 1st Five than full back. I would not blame him too severely for his blunders as he had very few minutes on the paddock for months. -
@Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:
@pakman said in Japan v All Blacks:
@kiwi_expat said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:
@canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:
With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.
Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ
Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!
They were all in the backline that knocked the Irish out of last World Cup? Smith scored twice, and Beady scored no?
Yeah - but, nek minnit....
And frankly, that was my main take-away from that next game. Too many little backs.
Reece isn't little, he's 178cm but weighs around 99kg, he carries a shitload of muscle.
Beauden is 187cm & 92kg in comparison.
Has a big head for a small bloke.
If he's 99kgs he must be storing some of Dame Val's shotputs in there!
People need to stop quoting internet weights, which have been repeatedly shown to be highly unreliable* and use their eyes. Sevu - short, and relative to other ABs, pretty slight. Low-90kgs at best. About the same weight as Beaudy, possibly not quite as much.
99kgs will be about Will Jordan and if anyone thinks Sevu is as big as Will, they need to get their telly fixed or go to bed wearing gumboots on their hands.
- Highly unreliable internet weights - here's the official ABs site saying Sevu is 87kgs. I reckon he's probably a few kgs more than that. http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/profile.asp?ABID=1182
I don't think the AB site updates so apart from heights I think they are usually stuck on younger player-stage weights.
Sevu is stocky. And he really does have a big head! How was he at fullback for the Mako in August? -
@cgrant said in Japan v All Blacks:
A few remarks after a second viewing :
The AB forwards were very poor at the breakdown. The loose forwards did not compete in the rucks, letting the Japanese get quick ball.
The problems at the LO came from a bad coordination between the thrower (Taukei'aho), the jumper (Vaai'i) and his lifters. The quality of the throwing looked OK to me.
Defense is a worry. The Japanese missed a few important tackles because some of their players are not up to it, but their general organization in that respect was excellent. Mitchell is a very good defense coach (as he showed for England), better than McLeod IMO.
Scrum was very good but it was only Japan. The problem is that both starting props bring nothing in the loose but this is not new.
Ennor did better than what transpired through the Ferners comments. He was not bad but he clearly came second best behind Riley.
RTS did not make a single error. His passing was good. But is he a second five ? He does not seem to know when and how to kick.
Kicking was dreadful. Christie and Mo'unga had a mare in that respect. The latter was standing flat and static, which is surprising against a rush defense. His kicking from the tee was perfect though.
Perofeta did well when he was used as the first receiver. He is certainly a better 1st Five than full back. I would not blame him too severely for his blunders as he had very few minutes on the paddock for months.Thanks for this. Why don't they try Perofeta at 10? We really don't have much depth there.
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@nostrildamus think mate Mounga doesn't go that well with an inside centre type player as much as a 2nd 5/8, someone who plays first receiver a bit and allows him to take the ball a little wider. With the Crusaders off set play especially early in game, Havili often takes the ball off set play. Not a criticism of Mounga, but just something I have seen.
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